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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 03:46 PM
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Callawy Germany has announced that they will be running our product on all their race cars for the next two seasons. Just thought some of you guys would like to hear about that.

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Great News!!

Can I use them on my Race Car too?

P.S. It's "their" race cars, not "there" race cars ;-)
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Great News!!

Can I use them on my Race Car too?

P.S. It's "their" race cars, not "there" race cars ;-)
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Well, that's pretty big news! Glad to hear it.
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Originally Posted by GeorgeR@kooks
Callawy has announced that they will be running our headers on all there race cars for the next two seasons. Just thought some of you guys would like to hear about that.
That doesn't say much for their headers.
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Great!! I love mine too!
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That doesn't say much for their headers.
Callaway's headers are not long tubes and do not relocate the cats ...
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Callaway's headers are not long tubes and do not relocate the cats ...
I'm sure their not running cat's on their race cars.
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Hmm.. Callaway, Katech.. I am starting to see a pattern.
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Originally Posted by VET4LES
I'm sure their not running cat's on their race cars.
I've gotten a number of calls today asking why Callaway doesn't use Callaway-built headers in Callaway-built race cars.

Just to clarify: the Callaway race cars that are described in this thread are the Z06.R GT3 cars that Callaway Competition builds. These cars are raced in the FIA Manufacturers Cup series on European race tracks. Six cars are being campaigned. The Z06's are being raced aginst the world's best GT3 cars: Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Viper, just to name a few. BTW, in the first race of this season, a Callaway-built Z06 started on the pole and won, beating the second-place Porsche by over 24 seconds.

Callaway headers are built in our Old Lyme CT facility and are designed for 1997-2007 LS1, LS6, and LS2 cylinder heads for Corvettes with stock catalytic converters in their stock location. That's why they're short tube design, to avoid "Tampering" (as defined by EPA). Callaway Cars does not offer exhaust system parts that do not comply with government emissions regulations.

The Z06 race cars use LS7 cylinder heads which utilize a different exhaust port design and, consequently, a different header flange. Also, they do not have to be emissions compliant and can take advantage of the long tube design. Our engineers weren't able to justify the cost of tooling and fabricating a dozen or so sets of LS7 race headers in house when compared to the cost of purchasing off-the-shelf headers.

Callaway hasn't introduced short tube headers for Z06 as the stock Z06 catalytic converters are integrated with the stock manifolds. There is a very short distance from the cylinder head flange to the converter. We would not expect enough power increase resulting from switching to very-short tube Z06 headers which would retain the stock converters in their stock location to justify their cost.
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Originally Posted by VetVetter
Callaway's headers are not long tubes and do not relocate the cats ...
Originally Posted by VET4LES
I'm sure their not running cat's on their race cars.
Originally Posted by mcv
I've gotten a number of calls today asking why Callaway doesn't use Callaway-built headers in Callaway-built race cars.

Just to clarify: the Callaway race cars that are described in this thread are the Z06.R GT3 cars that Callaway Competition builds. These cars are raced in the FIA Manufacturers Cup series on European race tracks. Six cars are being campaigned. The Z06's are being raced aginst the world's best GT3 cars: Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Viper, just to name a few. BTW, in the first race of this season, a Callaway-built Z06 started on the pole and won, beating the second-place Porsche by over 24 seconds.

Callaway headers are built in our Old Lyme CT facility and are designed for 1997-2007 LS1, LS6, and LS2 cylinder heads for Corvettes with stock catalytic converters in their stock location. That's why they're short tube design, to avoid "Tampering" (as defined by EPA). Callaway Cars does not offer exhaust system parts that do not comply with government emissions regulations.

The Z06 race cars use LS7 cylinder heads which utilize a different exhaust port design and, consequently, a different header flange. Also, they do not have to be emissions compliant and can take advantage of the long tube design. Our engineers weren't able to justify the cost of tooling and fabricating a dozen or so sets of LS7 race headers in house when compared to the cost of purchasing off-the-shelf headers.

Callaway hasn't introduced short tube headers for Z06 as the stock Z06 catalytic converters are integrated with the stock manifolds. There is a very short distance from the cylinder head flange to the converter. We would not expect enough power increase resulting from switching to very-short tube Z06 headers which would retain the stock converters in their stock location to justify their cost.
My point
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by GeorgeR@kooks
Callawy Germany has announced that they will be running our headers on all their race cars for the next two seasons. Just thought some of you guys would like to hear about that.
George,
I just spoke with Callaway Competition's (Germany) manager. He told me that they weren't ordering headers from you, they just need your catalytic converter/X-pipe combination. The Z06.R GT3 race car is homologated with OEM exhaust manifolds.

Sorry for any misunderstanding.
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Originally Posted by mcv
I've gotten a number of calls today asking why Callaway doesn't use Callaway-built headers in Callaway-built race cars.

Just to clarify: the Callaway race cars that are described in this thread are the Z06.R GT3 cars that Callaway Competition builds. These cars are raced in the FIA Manufacturers Cup series on European race tracks. Six cars are being campaigned. The Z06's are being raced aginst the world's best GT3 cars: Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Viper, just to name a few. BTW, in the first race of this season, a Callaway-built Z06 started on the pole and won, beating the second-place Porsche by over 24 seconds.

Callaway headers are built in our Old Lyme CT facility and are designed for 1997-2007 LS1, LS6, and LS2 cylinder heads for Corvettes with stock catalytic converters in their stock location. That's why they're short tube design, to avoid "Tampering" (as defined by EPA). Callaway Cars does not offer exhaust system parts that do not comply with government emissions regulations.

The Z06 race cars use LS7 cylinder heads which utilize a different exhaust port design and, consequently, a different header flange. Also, they do not have to be emissions compliant and can take advantage of the long tube design. Our engineers weren't able to justify the cost of tooling and fabricating a dozen or so sets of LS7 race headers in house when compared to the cost of purchasing off-the-shelf headers.

Callaway hasn't introduced short tube headers for Z06 as the stock Z06 catalytic converters are integrated with the stock manifolds. There is a very short distance from the cylinder head flange to the converter. We would not expect enough power increase resulting from switching to very-short tube Z06 headers which would retain the stock converters in their stock location to justify their cost.
To clarify the clarification: Callaway Competition wasn't ordering headers from Kooks, they were ordering x-pipe/converter assemblies. I just learned that the cars were homologated with OEM manifolds.
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