Predator tune question?
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Racer
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From: clarksville tn
Predator tune question?
I just recently added kooks long tube headers with their high flow cats, Vararam CAI- throttle body spacer, and Corsa sports exhaust.
Now my question is i just installed the basic upgrade predator tune off of their website into my car, makes a small difference however there are a couple of shops around 100 to 150 miles away that will tune my car VIA predator for me. is it worth it?
I am having some trouble finding a place that i can trust to dyno tune my car. should i go to one of these predator shops or leave it like it is> will it be worth the time and money and effort?
Now my question is i just installed the basic upgrade predator tune off of their website into my car, makes a small difference however there are a couple of shops around 100 to 150 miles away that will tune my car VIA predator for me. is it worth it?
I am having some trouble finding a place that i can trust to dyno tune my car. should i go to one of these predator shops or leave it like it is> will it be worth the time and money and effort?
Racer
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From: harlan KY
Well every tuner that i talked to said that the most rwhp that they could get me was 25rwhp, and the preditor claims 25rwhp. The predator is what i have, with also the same mods as you have, and i got every bit of 25 rwhp out of mine. I wouldnt think that you would be able to get much more out of it, maybe 10 rwhp. so its up to you. I would talk to these guys, and tell them to give me an estimate on hp before i went.
Melting Slicks
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Well every tuner that i talked to said that the most rwhp that they could get me was 25rwhp, and the preditor claims 25rwhp. The predator is what i have, with also the same mods as you have, and i got every bit of 25 rwhp out of mine. I wouldnt think that you would be able to get much more out of it, maybe 10 rwhp. so its up to you. I would talk to these guys, and tell them to give me an estimate on hp before i went.
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From: chicago il
Well every tuner that i talked to said that the most rwhp that they could get me was 25rwhp, and the preditor claims 25rwhp. The predator is what i have, with also the same mods as you have, and i got every bit of 25 rwhp out of mine. I wouldnt think that you would be able to get much more out of it, maybe 10 rwhp. so its up to you. I would talk to these guys, and tell them to give me an estimate on hp before i went.
Team Owner
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From: queensbury ny
I'm going to a DYNO SHOP tonight to get the 3 free pulls I won last year.I have the predator tune in the car.I'm going to go back to stock,do a pull,then put the predator tune back in ,do another pull, and see what happens.Stay tuned,I'll be posting results tonight or tomorrow morning.
Melting Slicks
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I'm going to a DYNO SHOP tonight to get the 3 free pulls I won last year.I have the predator tune in the car.I'm going to go back to stock,do a pull,then put the predator tune back in ,do another pull, and see what happens.Stay tuned,I'll be posting results tonight or tomorrow morning.
Drifting
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From: az
I'm going to a DYNO SHOP tonight to get the 3 free pulls I won last year.I have the predator tune in the car.I'm going to go back to stock,do a pull,then put the predator tune back in ,do another pull, and see what happens.Stay tuned,I'll be posting results tonight or tomorrow morning.
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Team Owner
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Switching back to your stock tune during that dyno session might not give you an idea of what you are looking for.
Le Mans Master
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From: Chandler Arizona
25 rwhp from a tune? only way that is going to happen is dyno games. they make sure your dyno # before tune is really low, usually by making iat / ect really high so your computer will start to pull timing, no fan infront of car, hood close, enter fake wether #....pick your poison. then after the tune your # seem about right with everyone's. that is how someone get 25rwhp.
I saw one LS2 tuned by an excellent tuner here in the Phx area and he did not do any dyno tricks and picked up 6 rwhp. There is not a lot to be had for a stock or near stock (inlet/headers) engine. However, most people rave about the driveability improvement.
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Drifting
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From: az
in his case there wouldn't be any relearn since there is no miles been put back on before the back to back dyno pull. as long as he only has bolt on, it will relearn given enough miles. with reloading stock tune back on and not allowing it to relearn if he has lots of bolt on, he would be lucky not to get any knock due to too lean a/f (ecm not having enough miles to make ltft +)
Team Owner
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From: queensbury ny
the results.....
Well,I'm just reading the other posts now,so it's to late for me!!The results of my dyno pulls are
364.4 dead stock with only vararam and a BASSANI EXHAUST.Now,the V'ram doesn't show it's true potential on a dyno,so I'm pretty happy w/that #!!The 2nd pull lost 4 HP.The 3rd pull,I put the DIABLO TUNE back in and gained 11.2 over the 1st pull for a total of 375.6
I'm a happy camper!!
364.4 dead stock with only vararam and a BASSANI EXHAUST.Now,the V'ram doesn't show it's true potential on a dyno,so I'm pretty happy w/that #!!The 2nd pull lost 4 HP.The 3rd pull,I put the DIABLO TUNE back in and gained 11.2 over the 1st pull for a total of 375.6
I'm a happy camper!!
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From: N.J.
Well,I'm just reading the other posts now,so it's to late for me!!The results of my dyno pulls are
364.4 dead stock with only vararam and a BASSANI EXHAUST.Now,the V'ram doesn't show it's true potential on a dyno,so I'm pretty happy w/that #!!The 2nd pull lost 4 HP.The 3rd pull,I put the DIABLO TUNE back in and gained 11.2 over the 1st pull for a total of 375.6 I'm a happy camper!!
364.4 dead stock with only vararam and a BASSANI EXHAUST.Now,the V'ram doesn't show it's true potential on a dyno,so I'm pretty happy w/that #!!The 2nd pull lost 4 HP.The 3rd pull,I put the DIABLO TUNE back in and gained 11.2 over the 1st pull for a total of 375.6
I'm a happy camper!! it would be interesting to see if you went back to the same Dyno in the near future and left the tune alone after a few miles being driven, if it would yield some better results, like others posting above are saying about the relearn?
Melting Slicks
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Well,I'm just reading the other posts now,so it's to late for me!!The results of my dyno pulls are
364.4 dead stock with only vararam and a BASSANI EXHAUST.Now,the V'ram doesn't show it's true potential on a dyno,so I'm pretty happy w/that #!!The 2nd pull lost 4 HP.The 3rd pull,I put the DIABLO TUNE back in and gained 11.2 over the 1st pull for a total of 375.6 I'm a happy camper!!
364.4 dead stock with only vararam and a BASSANI EXHAUST.Now,the V'ram doesn't show it's true potential on a dyno,so I'm pretty happy w/that #!!The 2nd pull lost 4 HP.The 3rd pull,I put the DIABLO TUNE back in and gained 11.2 over the 1st pull for a total of 375.6
I'm a happy camper!! Good numbers! Underway, with the VR getting cold air to the intake, the leaned AFR from the tune should be good for another 10 hp, I'd guess. As stated above, learning the new tune with miles on the car will also add power. I think the Predator is well worth the $$, and you can still dial it in for even more.
Drifting
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From: az
jesse, is your BASSANI EXHAUST a cat back or headers?
that is a very nice gain for a tune hand held or not. let me see if i understand you correctly, you had predator tune, right before going on your 50 miles drive to the dyno place, you put back in the stock tune....got to the dyno place, run your baseline #, put back your predator tune...gain 11rwhp. do i have this correctly?
you guys also has 93 octane gas out there, right? thanks
that is a very nice gain for a tune hand held or not. let me see if i understand you correctly, you had predator tune, right before going on your 50 miles drive to the dyno place, you put back in the stock tune....got to the dyno place, run your baseline #, put back your predator tune...gain 11rwhp. do i have this correctly?
you guys also has 93 octane gas out there, right? thanks
Melting Slicks
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Go to their website. They have very good instructions on how to do it. You need to log your numbers first, however. Then it sounds pretty easy. I think you can hook up a laptop to do the data log, as the Predator doesn't hold much data, or have a friend drive while you manually write them down. Very nice forum and good responses from the Diablo guys.
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From: queensbury ny
jesse, is your BASSANI EXHAUST a cat back or headers?
that is a very nice gain for a tune hand held or not. let me see if i understand you correctly, you had predator tune, right before going on your 50 miles drive to the dyno place, you put back in the stock tune....got to the dyno place, run your baseline #, put back your predator tune...gain 11rwhp. do i have this correctly?
you guys also has 93 octane gas out there, right? thanks
that is a very nice gain for a tune hand held or not. let me see if i understand you correctly, you had predator tune, right before going on your 50 miles drive to the dyno place, you put back in the stock tune....got to the dyno place, run your baseline #, put back your predator tune...gain 11rwhp. do i have this correctly?
you guys also has 93 octane gas out there, right? thanks