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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 12:00 AM
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I'm finding bits and pieces of this answered in lots of different threads but...

is it possible to put Z06/Z51 sways and Z06 shocks AND springs on a base model 2005 C6. I know many recommendations of Koni and Bilstein on the forum. I don't track the car but a little fin driving early Sunday and an improved handling is all I want. Looking more at improved handling and price. Gene at gmpartshouse has some good prices.

I know this has been beaten to death but thanks for the advice and replies from everyone.

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I'm finding bits and pieces of this answered in lots of different threads but...

is it possible to put Z06/Z51 sways and Z06 shocks AND springs on a base model 2005 C6. I know many recommendations of Koni and Bilstein on the forum. I don't track the car but a little fin driving early Sunday and an improved handling is all I want. Looking more at improved handling and price. Gene at gmpartshouse has some good prices.

I know this has been beaten to death but thanks for the advice and replies from everyone.

drgilmore
Yes but go with the Bilstein sport shocks people recommend them for a reason, they are only $300 and they are better than the Z51 or Z06 shocks, the Bilsteins are smoother and more controlled at the same time. Have at it with the Z51/Z06 spring/sway bars. They are completely interchangeable from base to Z51 to Z06
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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Yes but go with the Bilstein sport shocks people recommend them for a reason, they are only $300 and they are better than the Z51 or Z06 shocks, the Bilsteins are smoother and more controlled at the same time. Have at it with the Z51/Z06 spring/sway bars. They are completely interchangeable from base to Z51 to Z06
Also...know that the front bar for A Z06 is the same as a Z51 bar.
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Each C6 suspension is a system, when you change just 1 or 2 parts of the system you are just as likely to end up with worse handling. Mis-matched shocks, springs and bars can cause problems with the handling.
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Each C6 suspension is a system, when you change just 1 or 2 parts of the system you are just as likely to end up with worse handling. Mis-matched shocks, springs and bars can cause problems with the handling.
I have not seen or heard of any issues with the z51 bars and Bilsteins being added..

Adding anything stiffer might cause a problem.. Stiffer bars and better shocks = less body roll..

Haven't heard of any issues with cat backs either.. (exhaust system)
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Originally Posted by haljensen
Each C6 suspension is a system, when you change just 1 or 2 parts of the system you are just as likely to end up with worse handling. Mis-matched shocks, springs and bars can cause problems with the handling.
I'm taking a wild guess here...you have a stock suspension. There are a variety of combinations that are PROVEN to be superior to the C6 stock suspension. And when I say proven, I mean people who actually drive their cars on race tracks at their car's limits find that various combinations of suspension upgrades make their car go around the track in less time than when stock. Do you think that anyone who races Corvettes seriously uses a stock suspension? Maybe those who run in stock class in that parking lot racing thing called autocross do. But on a full size track or in a wide open canyon with lots of sweepers and twisties, I'll go with an upgraded suspension. The difference is unbelieveable. I use Pfadt coilovers with C6R T-1 sway bars. I ahve virtually zero body roll and absolutely zero wheel hop in a turn. Then there are tires, but that's a whole other story; and I suppose you probably think the stock runflats that came with your car a far superior to anything else.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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The Z06 rear sway is super stiff. I experienced a lot of oversteer when I tried one out. I do have a spare set of springs both Z06 and Z51. take your pick or mix and match for $300 + shipping.
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Originally Posted by ricatthebeach
. I use Pfadt coilovers with C6R T-1 sway bars.
You do realize the T1 sway bars are NOT what the C6R uses?
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Originally Posted by C6400hp
You do realize the T1 sway bars are NOT what the C6R uses?
No I didn't realize that. I assumed that since the T-1 Bars came from Corvette Racing, they were used in the C6R. What bar do they use?
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Originally Posted by john_sblendorio
The Z06 rear sway is super stiff. I experienced a lot of oversteer when I tried one out. I do have a spare set of springs both Z06 and Z51. take your pick or mix and match for $300 + shipping.
Good example of a handling problem. Stiffer rear sway bar with no other changes will cause oversteer. Stiffer front sway bar with no other changes will cause understeer. Suspension is a system, the parts have to work together.
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Originally Posted by haljensen
Good example of a handling problem. Stiffer rear sway bar with no other changes will cause oversteer. Stiffer front sway bar with no other changes will cause understeer. Suspension is a system, the parts have to work together.
Perhaps I over spoke & wasn'tr clear. I believe there are many combinations that work a lot betrter than the stock set up. Certainly throwing a really stiff front bar on without changing the rear is not one of them.
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