Everytime a new engine comes out a section becomes a power/performance guessing game for the new engine and there is rarely a mod thread for the old platform. I dont feel like having the C6 section become the theory of the C6 with an LS3 section where you have to plow through 50 threads of guesses for an engine less than .0005% of the readers have.

 

Wait, if there is to be an LS3 section would it get it's own 1/4 mile list as well?

 

I agree. The separation would avoid a lot of confusions.

 

me three

 

Yes. I see this as a win - win situation.





The new engine and transmission and other changes might not completely justify a new section, but splitting the C6 section would benefit almost all Forum Members.

The pre 2008 owners could happily continue to tell themselves the 2008 changes are nothing special, freely discuss the ugliness of the new wheels and comment about how the new colors either stink or are "girly". While, the 2008 and post 2008 owners could enjoy their new cars and trade information in relative peace.

You will not need a 2009 or 2010 section because GM will not change the drive train or make other significant changes in the car until the C7 is introduced as a 2012 model year.

Maybe we could also design our own Z51 badges and work on a 2008 secret handshake?

 

Using this analogy how many C4 Sections would there be?

Tom

 

I disagree. Where would the sections end? Z51 section? 3lt section? Chrome rims section? A C6 is a C6.

 

I started to disagree - but then thought - what the hey - there is a C6 Z06 section already, why not a C6 LS3 section.

 

oooooooh, I hope so!

 

Unfortunately yes, the truth does sometimes hurt.

 

See here's the thing, if I keep my current LS2 C6 for a long time then I would like to see a separate list started for the LS3s but in the outside event that I end up getting an LS3 C6 then I'd want the list to continue to simply include all 'non Z06' C6s as it does now.
This is of course a very selfish, self serving thing and suggested ONLY to aid me/my car in maintaining a top spot on some list LOL.


But in all seriousness, I ultimately do NOT think the board should make a whole new separate section, I think EVERY person posting should just be extra careful/meticulous/detail oriented when posting and specify right in their titles whether their topic/question/complaint/praise is LS3 or LS2 related.
Problem solved.

 

I think the point I was really making is that prediction posts provide no tech/mod info for guys that actually own any engine and the daydreamers who want to fantasize about the gains from a bigger bore motors should have a section for general discussion about that topic.

When actual posts like LG's LS3 testing and R&D come up they provide real tech info (although it is limited to how a secret spec cam works in the motor and nothing about a possible cam profile you can grind yourself---in other words you cant build on the research---but he pays to advertise here just like other tuners such as Cartek also with secret cam specs) and people may one day use that info for modding.

Take the predictions based on nothing to the general discussion section before this becomes like the LS2 section at LS1tech.com where 80% of the posts are people asking for predictions and cam suggestions for L92 heads on 403/416 strokers. Try and do a search there on a head cam package for an LS2. There arent any.

 

It should...

 

Ah, as the awesome licensed teacher I am, I was able to have the others in my presence come to the very conclusion I was looking for without having to give the answer.

In additon I think the posters should also use the appropriate section for posts. General section for posts that dont improve performance and to discuss possibilities. Tech for actual performance and actual mods....not predictions of such.

You sir, are a genious.

 

LS3 section sounds like a good idea, where anything LS3 specific can be discussed. But it is going to be a mighty small section.

LS2 owners to LS3 owners here has to at least be around 100 :1 if not considerably more.

Really though, how many of the LS3 guys are going to be talking about the technical aspects of the engine and driveline? Probably not many.

A lot of these LS3 guys I've seen here so far are either new Vette owners announcing the purchase of their cars, and who tend not to tinker, or guys who are multiple Vette owners who don't modifiy their cars or get very technical much anyway.

So you'll have a section with maybe half dozen regular posters in it, and days, even weeks going by before any posts are made in the section. You wind up with a section with a few very old posts in it.

You wind up with threads that are ancient, with one or two responses, and many with no responses in them, much like some of the lesser Corvette forums on the internet.

Notice how slow the tuning section and FI sections of the C6 forum are.

As said before, a lot of the LS3/TR6060 guys may not be into the technical aspects of the car and since the rest of the car is essentially more of what we saw in the prior year models, most, if not all, of their needs should be met in the existing sections.

Someone's seat rocks, or active handling light comes on, or rear end makes noises, or battery dies, or air conditioner doesn't cool, or front signal light bulb blows, ......well we don't need a seperate LS3 section for that.

 

Exactly.

It took 6 months to get past warranty worry posts on the C6 when it came out. With the 2005's only now comming off warranty, it shouldnt take long to see more mods done since the cars are now in the reach of used car/younger purchasers.

The 2008's have a 5yr 100k warranty so it will never end.

 

I usually go to LS1 Tech for any hardcore engine discussions. There just seems to be a larger knowledge based from motor builders, tuners and manufacturers. Hopefully there is no problem posting the links. A lot of our sponsors also participate there, as do folks from our community.

Generation IV Internal Engine
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=80

Generation IV External Engine
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=130

 

True, some might think that that board is predominantly LS1 (LS6) related (because it is '4th gen F-body related' and those never came with LS2s/LS7s/L92s/LS3s etc.) only but it's not, there is PLENTY of detailed tech/build ups/trouble shooting info on ALL LSx related motors over there.

 

100% Much larger knowledge based from motor builders, tuners and manufacturers.

If you have a question about LSx engines and can't find the answer over there, then you probably won't find it anywhere else on the net, anyway.

Excellent point Spin.

Indeed there are still, even to this day, a lot of warranty worry posts among the pre '08 crowd.

So if you take that into account, you'll probably see an even less number of "technically or mod oriented" LS3 posts than I was initially figuring on.

Doesn't look like he's the only one.

 

CHECK MATE!! Brilliant move..