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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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So I am thinking about getting a cam so i figured I would get a complete cam package.

I have a 2005 C6 M6

I was looking at 2 packages. One from thunder racing and one from LG. I do have a question.

Why does a cam package from LG cost $1400 while a similar cam package from thunder racing clocks in at around $700? I compared the two package and they come with my choice of Camshaft, Dual Springs, Push Rods, Retainers, and Seals.

Here is the package from LG

Here is the package from Thunder Racing (see package CAMPK-PG)

Is the package from LG so much better that it constitutes almost double the price?
Anyone have experience with LG or Thunder Racing?
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 09:08 PM
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Damn, that IS crazy. You can any custom cam from Comp for around +/- $400, so I can't see the rest of the kit costing you $1K. You might shop out the remaining Comp pieces online to see what total costs are. But a $1000
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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Don't know too much about Thunder, but I know that LG is very solid. They have very good quality and customer service. They produce very good numbers on C6Z and LS3 C6s, I'm guessing the same is for the older C6s too. I just had them install head/cam pkg on my Z06, and it is sick!
I do agree it might seem a bit pricey, but i've always been one to think that you get what you pay for. good luck with your desicion.
edit: this isn't base C6, but here's what LG did to my Z06 recently

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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Homer3D
So I am thinking about getting a cam so i figured I would get a complete cam package.

I have a 2005 C6 M6

I was looking at 2 packages. One from thunder racing and one from LG. I do have a question.

Why does a cam package from LG cost $1400 while a similar cam package from thunder racing clocks in at around $700? I compared the two package and they come with my choice of Camshaft, Dual Springs, Push Rods, Retainers, and Seals.

Here is the package from LG

Here is the package from Thunder Racing (see package CAMPK-PG)

Is the package from LG so much better that it constitutes almost double the price?
Anyone have experience with LG or Thunder Racing?
Apples to oranges.

While a cam from LG is more money than the 389 Thunder charges, I doubt you are looking at the same parts list. I beleive you should recheck what springs they are selling you from thunder before you state they are the same parts. Dual 921 springs from Comp cams are 599. Taking that into account, a 450 cam and 599 set of the best springs available isnt going for 700 from anyone. Thunder wants 250 additional for that spring with that kit in the menu if you go look again. Call and find out the part numbers and if there are gaskets and such included and you will find the reason for the price difference.

Both companies are great to deal with.

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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 11:53 PM
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What is an appropriate cam package? I'm seriously considering the G5X1 cam from LGM ($450). Would it be adequate to use the AFR Dual Spring Kit ($395)? The AFR Dual Spring Kit includes: (1) the same springs used on the AFR Mongoose cylinder heads (2) Titanium retainers (3) hardened spring bases (4) hardened locks, and (5) new seals. This spring kit is for cams up to .620" lift. Thanks.

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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 10:20 AM
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Apples to oranges.

While a cam from LG is more money than the 389 Thunder charges, I doubt you are looking at the same parts list. I beleive you should recheck what springs they are selling you from thunder before you state they are the same parts. Dual 921 springs from Comp cams are 599. Taking that into account, a 450 cam and 599 set of the best springs available isnt going for 700 from anyone. Thunder wants 250 additional for that spring with that kit in the menu if you go look again. Call and find out the part numbers and if there are gaskets and such included and you will find the reason for the price difference.

Both companies are great to deal with.
It is hard to compare apples to apples since both companies look to be using their own parts. It is their own cam, their own push rods, etc. So the part numbers would never match. Even if I choose the upgraded Comp Cam springs from Thunder Racing, that still doesn't account for almost the double in price from LG.
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What is an appropriate cam package? I'm seriously considering the G5X1 cam from LGM ($450). Would it be adequate to use the AFR Dual Spring Kit ($395)? The AFT Dual Spring Kit includes: (1) the same springs used on the AFR Mongoose cylinder heads (2) Titanium retainers (3) hardened spring bases (4) hardened locks, and (5) new seals. This spring kit is for cams up to .620" lift. Thanks.
Yeah I am leaning towards the g5x1 cam too
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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I'm very happy with the my G5X1! I was happy with their install.


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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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I have a lot of experience with Thunder Racing. Put the TRAK cam im my 06 z51 and cam only it dynoed between 450 to wheels cam only. PLus they make a cheaTR cam which sounds and drives like stock that will get you to 420-435 at the wheels. They are a vendor here, but they are real big in the f-body market and have lots of experience with ls motors. Goeff is a great tuner as well. You can read about them at LS1tech. Their 224/224 cam for the f-body is one that most guys over at ls1tech put in their cars for years. Their caustomer service is second to none. Hope this helps.

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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 11:02 AM
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Good numbers Shawn. I'm going the C6 vs C6z because of $$$ differance. Cam and headers should just about get me there, huh?
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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My car ran great for cam and headers. It was kooks 1 7/8 headers, vararam, TRAK cam. Drove the car everyday. no bucking or surging. At the end of the day I decided what I really wanted was a z06 and thats why I traded it, But let me state that this was an excellent combo and ran 11's all day long. I did have a z51.
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Homer3D
It is hard to compare apples to apples since both companies look to be using their own parts. It is their own cam, their own push rods, etc. So the part numbers would never match. Even if I choose the upgraded Comp Cam springs from Thunder Racing, that still doesn't account for almost the double in price from LG.
It isnt double the price if you upgreade to 921 springs and yes LG is more money.

709 plus 250 for the comp springs is 959. The cam is 70 more too. The thunder pushrods arent comp pushrods either. I think the thunder package is a better value. Once again, the package may include things such as seals that arent in the other and once again you should make the phone call instead of asking people on the internet that dont know.
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SpinMonster
It isnt double the price if you upgreade to 921 springs and yes LG is more money.

709 plus 250 for the comp springs is 959. The cam is 70 more too. The thunder pushrods arent comp pushrods either. I think the thunder package is a better value. Once again, the package may include things such as seals that arent in the other and once again you should make the phone call instead of asking people on the internet that dont know.


Roger the part differences.

Other places offer similar packages. Check them out - all are supporting vendors.

And this is America - people can ask what they want. That does not mean they will not sell for less.

#1. Figure out what you want
#2. Call the vendor & bargain for the sale price

Aint America Great?
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SpinMonster
It isnt double the price if you upgreade to 921 springs and yes LG is more money.

709 plus 250 for the comp springs is 959. The cam is 70 more too. The thunder pushrods arent comp pushrods either. I think the thunder package is a better value. Once again, the package may include things such as seals that arent in the other and once again you should make the phone call instead of asking people on the internet that dont know.
I would give Jonathan a call at thunder. Tell him you talked to Shawn and he will point you in the right direction on their packages. As for people not knowing anything...It just so happens that a company called Trend makes the comp pushrods for them, which is the same company that makes Thunder's pushrods. Maybe you should know a little more yourself.
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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Buy the cam and dual springs from Thunder, you don't need push rods. I've seen Vette's with the TRex cam run with stock push rods, never seen one bend yet (I've installed over 30 cams). The cam you get from Thunder or LG is probably made in the same building, on teh same machine, a comp cam is a comp cam, you are paying for the LG name/grind. It's up to you whether you think it's worth the cost.
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Originally Posted by Silverton
Would it be adequate to use the AFR Dual Spring Kit ($395)? The AFT Dual Spring Kit includes: (1) the same springs used on the AFR Mongoose cylinder heads (2) Titanium retainers (3) hardened spring bases (4) hardened locks, and (5) new seals. This spring kit is for cams up to .620" lift. Thanks.
Yes, those are the same springs that Texas Speed and Patriot sell too. They work just as well as the 921's.
Texas speed also has good prices on cam kits, give them a look...
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I'm selling my supercharged c5z and buying a z51 c6. I want to keep it N/A headers and cam. I quess when I want a c6z, i'll put a puffer on it. _bob
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Originally Posted by seebobgo
I'm selling my supercharged c5z and buying a z51 c6. I want to keep it N/A headers and cam. I quess when I want a c6z, i'll put a puffer on it. _bob
I went from a C5Z to a C6, I was unhappy, be sure you are making the correct decision...
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Why? My car is sold anyway. C6 on it's way.
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I too went from a c5z to a c6 and I couldn't be happier. Not sure why CYA is unhappy, maybe he can elaborate? The c6 doesn't feel quite as raw as far as power delivery and handling. Thus, when driving it may seem as though the car doesn't handle quite as well, however my car with z51 and non-runflats is right on par with what I was running my 03 Z. In any event I personally would never go back to a c5, the c6 is so much nicer and much more livable on long trips/daily driving.
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Why? My car is sold anyway. C6 on it's way.
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