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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 12:39 AM
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i'm putting on non run flats and do not want or need the sensors, is there a way to de-program the system. someone mentioned a tech II but i checked on the forum and can not find out what or where to get one.
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 12:53 AM
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After a awhile from being away from the sensors the digital display will read xx.xx for your back tires. Without the sensor in the rear tires you will NOT be able to put the car into competition mode I think. I know when I was driving to have the car fixed with my Nittos on the back I tried to put it into Competition mode and no good. I'm sure someone will help out further but that was just my experiance with non-runflats. Someone please help out further and give this man an answer thanks. Charlie C6 ROLLER
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 08:49 AM
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i have an 05 a4 sensors are in my tool box in a air tight canister, in my back garage. its 60 ft from my atched garage that i keep the vette in. i drive it every night its been away from sensors 3-4 weeks, no issues i dont get the xx but i dont put it in comp mod, i turn ah and tc off
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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i'm putting on non run flats and do not want or need the sensors, is there a way to de-program the system. someone mentioned a tech II but i checked on the forum and can not find out what or where to get one.
It's not what you want, it's what you get. Sensors have to be around to run A/H & Comp mode (and to keep the car out of limp mode). Either put the sensors in a pressurized container that the car will see every day or easier yet; Mount the sensors on your non-runflats.

Tech 2's are the GM tool, somebody posted a $6,800 price if a Dealer buys them. You would also need access to the frequent updates to the Tech 2 programs.
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 10:13 AM
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I have a follow up question on sensors. I am using a set of tires that does not have the sensors on them. I am currently getting a low right rear tire pressure warning on my DIC, which is incorrect. My tires are inflated properly. Heres my question, my service writer tells me the system cannot be reset without having the sensors on the car. The sensors cost $90 a piece, it seems a little expensive just to turn off an idiot light. Yet the idiot light is driving me nuts. Any help or thoughts?
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 11:02 AM
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I have a follow up question on sensors. I am using a set of tires that does not have the sensors on them. I am currently getting a low right rear tire pressure warning on my DIC, which is incorrect. My tires are inflated properly. Heres my question, my service writer tells me the system cannot be reset without having the sensors on the car. The sensors cost $90 a piece, it seems a little expensive just to turn off an idiot light. Yet the idiot light is driving me nuts. Any help or thoughts?
add air to the tires that the sensors are in and bring the car close leave it about an hour and it will pick the signal up, and you can have them calibrated to the other tires. you dont need the sensors in the tires on the car, but they must be in another set or an air tight canister with over 28lbs less than 38lbs because of expanding and contracting air pressure
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Thanks Dennis, So you are saying if U add air to my tires with the sensors and then park my vette next to those tires, the signal will pick that up in the car?
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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Thanks Dennis, So you are saying if U add air to my tires with the sensors and then park my vette next to those tires, the signal will pick that up in the car?
yes the say you have to park near them at night and if you drive more than an hour away you will get the xx. but i havent i use to keep the canister in the car. now i leave it at home and havent been close enough to it in 3-4 weeks and no xx mines an 05 but as long as you park next to the tires a couple hours you wont have no problems. and you can have your sensors taken out and put in the new tires and rims. you will still no when you have low pressure
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I have a follow up question on sensors. I am using a set of tires that does not have the sensors on them. I am currently getting a low right rear tire pressure warning on my DIC, which is incorrect. My tires are inflated properly. Heres my question, my service writer tells me the system cannot be reset without having the sensors on the car. The sensors cost $90 a piece, it seems a little expensive just to turn off an idiot light. Yet the idiot light is driving me nuts. Any help or thoughts?

You can get new TPMS from Dan at Fred Beans for $52 each or Gene will probably be close to same price.
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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You can get new TPMS from Dan at Fred Beans for $52 each or Gene will probably be close to same price.
Thank you Dennis, previous post, and SAPLUMR last post for the info.
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Originally Posted by glencar
i'm putting on non run flats and do not want or need the sensors, is there a way to de-program the system. someone mentioned a tech II but i checked on the forum and can not find out what or where to get one.
No way that I know of to de-program the TPMS, even with a Tech II.

Corvettes have had sensors for about 15 years, but they were always there for "information" purposes. In the C5, the Z06 came without sensors and the TPMS was de-programmed - but you could activate the TPMS if you wanted to run sensors.

Congress passed a law a couple years ago that starting Sept. 2007 (2008 model year), ALL 4 wheeled vehicles less than 10,000 lbs. would have to have a TPMS and tire pressure sensors. This was a knee-jerk reaction to Phord Explorers flipping over and killing soccer moms and their families because they never checked their tire pressures.

The Federal Law was passed, and now our Corvettes are like all other vehicles - the sensors are not just for good nice-to-know info anymore, they are there because they are required.

Part of the law was that the instrument panel warnings would be obnoxious and persistent - they don't want you to do away with them so you can't ignore low tire pressures.

Big Brother knows best, so we just have to put up with it!!!

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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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In the C-5 forum there was a solution where you put the sensors in a PVC canister and pressurized the canister. You had to carry it in the trunk but it would prevent the warnings.
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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In the C-5 forum there was a solution where you put the sensors in a PVC canister and pressurized the canister. You had to carry it in the trunk but it would prevent the warnings.
i have mine in a canister so i can air down the drs.
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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Just for reference. With my racing slicks on at WG the Service Tire Monitor came up. No sensors! After punching the button 60 times + finally competition mode came on so I could be on the track without active handling. This worked 7 different times with no consistency on button hits or how they were hit. Thank god it worked or I would have never passed that GT3

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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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Why not just buy new sensors? Gene has them now for $49.13 each. You have to buy the special nut seperate for $3.16 each.

Then you need to have them calibrated to the car. This is no big deal if you have the special tool or can have your dealer do it for you.

I'm on my 3rd set.
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Why not just buy new sensors? Gene has them now for $49.13 each. You have to buy the special nut seperate for $3.16 each.

Then you need to have them calibrated to the car. This is no big deal if you have the special tool or can have your dealer do it for you.

I'm on my 3rd set.
its good to have the sensors, but if you have to air down under 24lbs car goes in limp mode with a code about the trans output shaft if you add air the code clears
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 08:17 AM
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I have had track tires on my car twice with no issues regarding the disabling of the traction control or initiating the competition mode, I do not have the sensors in them, then in the few days following my trip to the track the car started displaying the "tire sensor system" warning and now will not go into comp. mode or disable the active handling! How big of a deal is it to get the sensors calibrated, is it necessary? The dealers in my area are miserable......
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Originally Posted by BlackC6Z51
I have had track tires on my car twice with no issues regarding the disabling of the traction control or initiating the competition mode, I do not have the sensors in them, then in the few days following my trip to the track the car started displaying the "tire sensor system" warning and now will not go into comp. mode or disable the active handling! How big of a deal is it to get the sensors calibrated, is it necessary? The dealers in my area are miserable......
It's not a big deal at all to reset the sensors - if you have access to the tool required!

A lot of tire shops will do it for free. My 2 local Chebie dealers told me I'd have to bring it back the next day and get in the long service line, then they wanted to charge me - one wanted $10 and the other $49.95 (for a 90 second procedure)!!!

So, I got my own tool. The video below shows it in use.

Is it necessary to get it done? In your case, if you want to turn off AH or go into Comp mode it sounds like it would be necessary.

Tools can be had for about $150 (for a tool that will only work on the C6) and up. I've got a tool like in the video that works on ALL sensors on ALL vehicles for $220.

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