Procharger
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Burning Brakes
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Procharger
Looking over past threads on the topic, I would like to get some thoughts from actual users. I have a 2006 A6, which is a daily driver, and am thinking about the Procharger. For those who have it, or have had it, what are the benefits/advantages, and then, what have you found to be the disadvantages and/or problems with the system. Thanks.
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OK, I'll chime in. I bought my C6, 6mn, new. So far, in order of modification I have added the following: B&M shifter (it's currently a modernistic lamp, as it was a pos. Then I added the Z06 brakes, along with appropiate Z06 style wheels. Then, the Dynatech 1 7/8" headers, cats and pipe. Next came the FlowMaster mufflers, next they came off. Sorry, another pos, IMHO. Then, over the period of a few weeks, I added the ProCharger, Meziere electric water pump, Ron Davis radiator and oil cooler, along with Corsa Sports mufflers. The last thing has been the addition of a Professional Products Typhoon intake manifold, along with 55 pound injectors and a smaller pulley.
Now, most people that ride in the car do not notice the car has been modded. As long as I baby the throttle, the exhaust is quiet, the car is smooth. My wife doesn't even realize the extent of the modifications. She thinks the car sounds and drives like all other C6's. If I were to do it again, I'd have to reconsider, and perhaps spring for the D1 ProCharger vs my PS1, and, I might use a ported LS6 intake, or a FAST intake, vs the Typhoon. The ProCharger is a quick way to better performance, maintaines good streetability, gas mileage, and dependability. Good luck.
Now, most people that ride in the car do not notice the car has been modded. As long as I baby the throttle, the exhaust is quiet, the car is smooth. My wife doesn't even realize the extent of the modifications. She thinks the car sounds and drives like all other C6's. If I were to do it again, I'd have to reconsider, and perhaps spring for the D1 ProCharger vs my PS1, and, I might use a ported LS6 intake, or a FAST intake, vs the Typhoon. The ProCharger is a quick way to better performance, maintaines good streetability, gas mileage, and dependability. Good luck.
Pro
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From: Frankfort Il
Procharger on the LS2 are sick. They have great drivability, and make gobs of power. If you definitely wanted to go the S/C, then ProCharger is the way to go, no doubts.
If you're going to get the kit, go with the D1SC, I believe it's only a $400 upgrade at time of purchase. If you wanted to upgrade to the D1SC after you already have the P1, then it's kind of pricey.
If you're going to get the kit, go with the D1SC, I believe it's only a $400 upgrade at time of purchase. If you wanted to upgrade to the D1SC after you already have the P1, then it's kind of pricey.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Wheaton Illinois
Procharger on the LS2 are sick. They have great drivability, and make gobs of power. If you definitely wanted to go the S/C, then ProCharger is the way to go, no doubts.
If you're going to get the kit, go with the D1SC, I believe it's only a $400 upgrade at time of purchase. If you wanted to upgrade to the D1SC after you already have the P1, then it's kind of pricey.
If you're going to get the kit, go with the D1SC, I believe it's only a $400 upgrade at time of purchase. If you wanted to upgrade to the D1SC after you already have the P1, then it's kind of pricey.
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From: Missouri City Texas
He means sick as a good thing, as in them being incredible 
I want to go FI, and love the look of a maggie....but prochargers are sweet, and would probably be the way I end up going.
I want to go FI, and love the look of a maggie....but prochargers are sweet, and would probably be the way I end up going.
Racer
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From: West Palm Beach FL
St. Jude Donor '11
Im guessing you are over 40?
Pro
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From: San Antonio Texas
Procharger on the LS2 are sick. They have great drivability, and make gobs of power. If you definitely wanted to go the S/C, then ProCharger is the way to go, no doubts.
If you're going to get the kit, go with the D1SC, I believe it's only a $400 upgrade at time of purchase. If you wanted to upgrade to the D1SC after you already have the P1, then it's kind of pricey.
If you're going to get the kit, go with the D1SC, I believe it's only a $400 upgrade at time of purchase. If you wanted to upgrade to the D1SC after you already have the P1, then it's kind of pricey.
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St. Jude Donor '08
I had the P1 unit installed on my 07 m6 within a month of getting the car ( wanted to put a few thousand miles on it ) - I can honestly say I love it , but this is not the " plug and play " system that Procharger would have you think it is . It has some serious flaws the most notable being the poor way the system is set up as per heat displacment .However , if you use a tuner that is VERY familiar with the system , they should be able sort out most of the issues on initial instalation . Also , the Procharger supplied belt is crap . Most every question you can think up can be answered in the FI/Nitro section of this forum , they were a tremendous asset for me as they will be for you.
On a conservative tune , bone stock otherwise , I made 507rwhp - It definitly changes the car into a monster . That being said , also realize that with the PC , as with all centri blowers , the power is on the top of the rev range . If youre looking for a low end tire smoker , check out the Maggie or a similar system.
Either way , you are gonna love it
On a conservative tune , bone stock otherwise , I made 507rwhp - It definitly changes the car into a monster . That being said , also realize that with the PC , as with all centri blowers , the power is on the top of the rev range . If youre looking for a low end tire smoker , check out the Maggie or a similar system.
Either way , you are gonna love it
Burning Brakes
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From: St. Lucie, FLORIDA 757 RWHP 694 RWTQ
Procharger
I had my P-series on my car for 25,000+ miles of the 43,000+ on the car. The A4 tranny held for ALONG time but eventually it broke down but again after 20,000+ miles on the tranny. I would get the D series from the start for the extra money and this way when (NOT IF) you decide you want more power it's there for you. You will have 500+ RWHP at your command under your right foot. I use hand controls being a para and love the procharger totally and I'm 41 years old.
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From: springfield missouri
I had my P-series on my car for 25,000+ miles of the 43,000+ on the car. The A4 tranny held for ALONG time but eventually it broke down but again after 20,000+ miles on the tranny. I would get the D series from the start for the extra money and this way when (NOT IF) you decide you want more power it's there for you. You will have 500+ RWHP at your command under your right foot. I use hand controls being a para and love the procharger totally and I'm 41 years old.
very cool man!
Racer
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From: Gahanna Ohio
I have a quick question on the ProCharger. I have a Vortech on my Cobra and with my 08 Vette on order, I'm thinking down the road at the power adder I want -- with the ProCharger, since it has a self-contained oiling system, is changing the oil in the ProCharger difficult, and how often does it need done? Also how much does a kit run w/ a good intercooler for the D1 unit?
Pro
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From: Frankfort Il
A few years back we did an 05 A4 C5 with the P1SC, Cam, Headers, and converter. With a mear 6.5lbs of boost we acheived 535rwhp (Mustang Dyno) through an unlocked converter and a 3.90:1 diff. To this day, that car is perhaps my favorite car I've done. It has trapped in the 130's, but it spinning the drag radials the whole way down the track. Looking back, we probably would have stuck with a 3.42:1 gear or smaller.
Another Procharger set up we completed more recently was a 2002 Z06 with a forged internal 402cui LS2, Headers, Cam, and D1SC. The heads are completely untouched aside from valve springs. The car made 625rwhp (Mustang Dyno) with a 2bar OS, and just this past week ran an 11.00@133mph at the track before he got kicked out.
We've found that the fuel system that comes with the ProCharger kit is a little under par. We usualy get the base kit, head unit, brackets, pulley's, intercooler, and hoses, then supply our own fuel system. We like to see 60lb/hr injectors on all our boosted LSx based applications, as well as a Boost-A-Pump.
If I remember correctly the oil for the ProCharged should be changed every 6000miles, so that's about every other oil change. I do recomend checking it more often than that. It is fairly simple to change too.
Another Procharger set up we completed more recently was a 2002 Z06 with a forged internal 402cui LS2, Headers, Cam, and D1SC. The heads are completely untouched aside from valve springs. The car made 625rwhp (Mustang Dyno) with a 2bar OS, and just this past week ran an 11.00@133mph at the track before he got kicked out.
We've found that the fuel system that comes with the ProCharger kit is a little under par. We usualy get the base kit, head unit, brackets, pulley's, intercooler, and hoses, then supply our own fuel system. We like to see 60lb/hr injectors on all our boosted LSx based applications, as well as a Boost-A-Pump.
If I remember correctly the oil for the ProCharged should be changed every 6000miles, so that's about every other oil change. I do recomend checking it more often than that. It is fairly simple to change too.
Pro
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From: KINGS PARK NY
Looking over past threads on the topic, I would like to get some thoughts from actual users. I have a 2006 A6, which is a daily driver, and am thinking about the Procharger. For those who have it, or have had it, what are the benefits/advantages, and then, what have you found to be the disadvantages and/or problems with the system. Thanks.
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From: Objects in your mirror are losing , Long Island, NY
St. Jude Donor '08
It's interesting you say that "Mallet" uses vortech on all their supercharged applications, and at carlisle I spoke to chuck the owner, he mentioned that he has installed vortech blower on 332 applications and has never had a failure. He buys just the core and fabricates his own brackets for stability and reliability. He is also recognized in the kelly blue book for add on mods and appreciation values. Only tuner to accomplish this.
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From: Saint Albans, WV
It's interesting you say that "Mallet" uses vortech on all their supercharged applications, and at carlisle I spoke to chuck the owner, he mentioned that he has installed vortech blower on 332 applications and has never had a failure. He buys just the core and fabricates his own brackets for stability and reliability. He is also recognized in the kelly blue book for add on mods and appreciation values. Only tuner to accomplish this.
My problem with the Vortech was it sounded like it was going to grind itself to shreds. Sent it back to Vortech for repairs and they said there was no problem. Needless to say I got rid of that POS!! I have had an oil seal leak with the ProCharger, ATI repaired it and shipped it back to me in 5 days. If I remember correctly it took 2-1/2 - 3 weeks to get my head unit back from Vortech. Never again.
Racer
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From: Gahanna Ohio
A few years back we did an 05 A4 C5 with the P1SC, Cam, Headers, and converter. With a mear 6.5lbs of boost we acheived 535rwhp (Mustang Dyno) through an unlocked converter and a 3.90:1 diff. To this day, that car is perhaps my favorite car I've done. It has trapped in the 130's, but it spinning the drag radials the whole way down the track. Looking back, we probably would have stuck with a 3.42:1 gear or smaller.
Another Procharger set up we completed more recently was a 2002 Z06 with a forged internal 402cui LS2, Headers, Cam, and D1SC. The heads are completely untouched aside from valve springs. The car made 625rwhp (Mustang Dyno) with a 2bar OS, and just this past week ran an 11.00@133mph at the track before he got kicked out.
We've found that the fuel system that comes with the ProCharger kit is a little under par. We usualy get the base kit, head unit, brackets, pulley's, intercooler, and hoses, then supply our own fuel system. We like to see 60lb/hr injectors on all our boosted LSx based applications, as well as a Boost-A-Pump.
If I remember correctly the oil for the ProCharged should be changed every 6000miles, so that's about every other oil change. I do recomend checking it more often than that. It is fairly simple to change too.
Another Procharger set up we completed more recently was a 2002 Z06 with a forged internal 402cui LS2, Headers, Cam, and D1SC. The heads are completely untouched aside from valve springs. The car made 625rwhp (Mustang Dyno) with a 2bar OS, and just this past week ran an 11.00@133mph at the track before he got kicked out.
We've found that the fuel system that comes with the ProCharger kit is a little under par. We usualy get the base kit, head unit, brackets, pulley's, intercooler, and hoses, then supply our own fuel system. We like to see 60lb/hr injectors on all our boosted LSx based applications, as well as a Boost-A-Pump.
If I remember correctly the oil for the ProCharged should be changed every 6000miles, so that's about every other oil change. I do recomend checking it more often than that. It is fairly simple to change too.