torque management on 08 MN6
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Melting Slicks
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From: Deerfield beach Fl
torque management on 08 MN6
Guys,
Went through 5 pages of search results and did not find what I"m looking for.
Will removing the torque management on an 08 MN6 have any useful effect? Is it mostly for automatics? or will I feel a big difference? From what I have seen on the torque management, removing it should not cause any major driveline issues.
Went through 5 pages of search results and did not find what I"m looking for.
Will removing the torque management on an 08 MN6 have any useful effect? Is it mostly for automatics? or will I feel a big difference? From what I have seen on the torque management, removing it should not cause any major driveline issues.
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Pretty insightful discussion of the tuning implications here:
Considering a Tune, read this first
I've chosen to leave my PCM stock and work on the driving instead.
Ranger
Considering a Tune, read this first
I've chosen to leave my PCM stock and work on the driving instead.
Ranger
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Melting Slicks
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From: Deerfield beach Fl
Ranger,
Read through the whole thread, did not see anything about torque management in there. I may leave my car stock as well, but remember, you have a z06 with a fair bit more power. I was thinking of doing intake, headers and a tune. Just wanted to find out about how intrusive the torque management really is.
Read through the whole thread, did not see anything about torque management in there. I may leave my car stock as well, but remember, you have a z06 with a fair bit more power. I was thinking of doing intake, headers and a tune. Just wanted to find out about how intrusive the torque management really is.
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From: Southampton NJ
Ranger,
Read through the whole thread, did not see anything about torque management in there. I may leave my car stock as well, but remember, you have a z06 with a fair bit more power. I was thinking of doing intake, headers and a tune. Just wanted to find out about how intrusive the torque management really is.
Read through the whole thread, did not see anything about torque management in there. I may leave my car stock as well, but remember, you have a z06 with a fair bit more power. I was thinking of doing intake, headers and a tune. Just wanted to find out about how intrusive the torque management really is.
you can have tm taken out of m6
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Pretty insightful discussion of the tuning implications here:
Considering a Tune, read this first
I've chosen to leave my PCM stock and work on the driving instead.
Ranger
Considering a Tune, read this first
I've chosen to leave my PCM stock and work on the driving instead.
Ranger
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Melting Slicks
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From: Deerfield beach Fl
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he is driving around tm by not driving the car as hard as it could be. so the point is yes he drives it fast, could he go faster with tm removed yes. he would be faster and more consistent without tm, one mistake and tm will slow him down and whatever it does you cant make up on that run. i think the main point he is making is he doesnt have to lie to gm that he had it tunedand no one really knows on the 08 ls3 yet
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I find it odd that the C6 has been out for three years now, and I only know of one person who has run before and after in the 1/4 mile with TM tuned out (he also had other tuning done at the same time). He says he picked up two or three tenths (don't remember exact - he has not posted in a long time). But even the "after" times would not have put him in the top 10 of bone stock times, so I never could figure out how much credibility he had.
I've had one well known tuner tell me that TM on manual C6's is very minimal. But he also tells me that timing being pulled due to heat IS even more intrusive on LS3's than LS2's.
I figure if Ranger can put a bone stock (ex-tires) Z06 in the TENS for crying out loud, then TM can't really be all that bad.
I've had one well known tuner tell me that TM on manual C6's is very minimal. But he also tells me that timing being pulled due to heat IS even more intrusive on LS3's than LS2's.
I figure if Ranger can put a bone stock (ex-tires) Z06 in the TENS for crying out loud, then TM can't really be all that bad.
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I find it odd that the C6 has been out for three years now, and I only know of one person who has run before and after in the 1/4 mile with TM tuned out (he also had other tuning done at the same time). He says he picked up two or three tenths (don't remember exact - he has not posted in a long time). But even the "after" times would not have put him in the top 10 of bone stock times, so I never could figure out how much credibility he had.
I've had one well known tuner tell me that TM on manual C6's is very minimal. But he also tells me that timing being pulled due to heat IS even more intrusive on LS3's than LS2's.
I figure if Ranger can put a bone stock (ex-tires) Z06 in the TENS for crying out loud, then TM can't really be all that bad.
I've had one well known tuner tell me that TM on manual C6's is very minimal. But he also tells me that timing being pulled due to heat IS even more intrusive on LS3's than LS2's.
I figure if Ranger can put a bone stock (ex-tires) Z06 in the TENS for crying out loud, then TM can't really be all that bad.
ranger shifts very fast of gas on gas. with no tm, i am sure power shifting, holding gas to floor, never letting up, preloading shifter, in each gear, so it sling shots into the next. and just enough down on clutch pedal and sidestepping will produce better times, as it would in a car that never had tm
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until he gets it tuned out Jim we will never know. lets put it this way
ranger shifts very fast of gas on gas. with no tm, i am sure power shifting, holding gas to floor, never letting up, preloading shifter, in each gear, so it sling shots into the next. and just enough down on clutch pedal and sidestepping will produce better times, as it would in a car that never had tm
ranger shifts very fast of gas on gas. with no tm, i am sure power shifting, holding gas to floor, never letting up, preloading shifter, in each gear, so it sling shots into the next. and just enough down on clutch pedal and sidestepping will produce better times, as it would in a car that never had tm
