The e-town road course as setup now looks dangerous. Unless they plan on making some changes I would not put this on your list of road courses. Actually I think it is more of a glorified Auto-X circuit which would be fun if there was only 1 car on the track at a time.

The road course in South Jersey though will be a full road course. That will be a ton of fun and should open next spring.

4.10s would not be a good all around gear for road racing. It might be ok at E-town because it is small. I know it was ok at Limerock too, but again that is a small track. At WGI, VIR and the new NJ track the 4.10s will require too many shifts and you run out of gear in many places.

I run 3.73s for road racing and it seems to be the best middle of the road gear. They are not as quick in first and second as the 4.10s, but I never use those gears on a road race track anyway. Because of these gears I have pulled away from more rwhp cars with 3.42s and MN12 setups because they could not use 3rd gear (mn12 with 3.42s is like 4.10s in 3rd gear).

If you plan to road race and plan to go FI then 4.10s will not be a good fit for you.

Bob

 

For what it's worth, the Speed World Challenge GT Cadillacs use 3.90's or 4.11's depending on the track. They run LS2's. They don't have FI but I would imagine that they have plenty of torque.

 

David Farmer was my instructor at VIR this year. I talked to him about gears and he liked 3.90s the best. I also heard but have never confirmed that LG likes 3.42s.

I would assume that it is track dependant. As stated I liked 4.10s at Limerock with 460rwhp, but hated them for the tracks I liked most WGI, VIR, etc.

 

I don't know if this is true for the Vettes, but I put 4.10 gears in my '98 LS1 Carmaro and it resulted in a lot of high-pitched gear whine. It was incredibly annoying and only got louder as the car went faster and you used higher gears. In other words, 6th gear cruising on the interstate was not a fun time. I also noticed more noises (clunking and such) from the rear. It did make my car run very quick and I picked up 3 mph in the quarter, but it was the one modification I regretted doing.

The rear of a Vette is completely different than that of an F-body, so maybe the reasons why I had problems with it would in no way play a role in your case?

One other thing, I've read on here that if you plan on racing your car (other than a drag strip) then you're better off building up a NA motor than using FI. I don't know if that is true, it is only what I've heard.

 

if the gears are installed properly and broken in properly then you should experience no whine. We have installed tons of gears with no issues. My 4.10s were sold to another customer and they are over 4 years old now and neither myself or the new owner had any whining noises.

FI setup for the track runs hotter than NA and is something that an owner will have to think of if they want to go the FI route. Most people that run the track a few times per year will be ok with FI. For people like myself that do 20 track days per year NA is the better way to go and believe me 500 rwhp is plenty for road racing anyway.

 

It closes on the 17th of November. I am heading down there on Wednesday of this week to see how I do and to get alittle bit of experience for the track.

Oh, and I just got a careless driving ticket on campus today. I have had one prior 2 point speeding ticket. Is there anyway to talk down the careless driving ticket to an unsafe driving or something that has no points?

Thanks for all the information though guys. I will talk to Dave at Cartek when I get a chance and see what he recommends for my applications.

 

First you can talk down any ticket. Depending on what you were doing it could be moved to a failure to obey traffic signs which is non-points violation. Where do you appear in court?

Second - We should be at E-Town Wednesday tuning a 07 AWD Trailblazer SS (it has a yellow ECSRacing STicker on the back window). If you see us stop over and say hi.

Bob

 

Hey Bob, Stop practicing law without a license!!!!! Otherwise, I am going to start installing superchargers under a shade tree.......

xxKilo16xx ticket can be talked down but there are other charges to plead to other than NJSA 39:4-97.2 (unsafe operation). Besides, that is an awfully expensive plea deal ($439 & no points for first use in a 5 year period, $539 and no points for second use; 4 points and $500 + for three or more uses in a 5 year period). Send me PM and we'll chat from the office tomorrow. BTW - which campus?

Thanks

 

I am not practicing law and for the record I went to law school, but decided that I didnt want to become a lawyer and thus I stopped. I do have a MBA though which still doesnt quailfy me to work on cars, but funny I can still make valid suggestions based on years of experience.

As far as getting a lawyer or not. For any major offense I always suggest that you get a lawyer, but for minor moving violations I suggest that you just arrive early, dress nice and talk to the prosecutor. For the most the prosecutor will lower the ticket for you depending on your priors and depending on your attitude. Going this route is not for everyone because you have to be able to walk up and talk to the prosecutor which most people are too afraid of doing.

Oh and feel free to start installing S/C. We have a kit that we can send you that will walk you through the whole installation. It is rather easy if you have enough ***** to do it. Just like walking up to the prosecutor.

 

Obviously by the tone of your retort you did not see the intended humor in my prior post.

Going to law school and having a license to practice are two different things. If I watch "House", can I perform surgeries and prescribe myself pills?

I was the acting municipal prosecutor of a county seat city at one point during my career and your assessment is correct re: talking to the prosceutor but several things about the present situation are not in our friend's favor: first of all, the accused is under 20 year old, driving a corvette and received a ticket on a college campus. Campus (wanna be) Cop + age of driver + vette = ball breaking experience. I am speaking from first hand knowledge - I had the same problem when I was 20 years old, driving a 10 second Supra, and going to college. I spent more time speaking to campus police than I did driving around campus. It got so bad that I bought a car just to drive to campus. He could probably do the appearance himself (depending on the town) but calling me could get him so free friendly advice on how do actually do it when he goes to court. Also, I am willing to bet that the prosecutor will not amend the summons to anything other than the 39:4-97.2 if he goes it alone. Welcome to a $439.00 fine (inclusive of the McGreavy applied surcharge).

It seems you and I took opposed paths; I used to have a shop and was installing HKS, Trust, Greddy, RS Akimoto, etc etc on Supras, VR4s, Eclipse GSXs, MR2s, 300 TT, etc during the late 80's/early 90's. Instead of continuing on with another 30 years of installing performance parts and performing other car related tasks (tint, stereos, wheels, detailing etc), I attended law school. So, based on skill and experience, I should have no problem installing the supercharger (or anything else for that matter) if I had the time, space and proper tools.

You know, if you had the ***** to activate your law license (presuming you finished law school and passed the bar), you could close your tool box and come practice law for a while - I could use a good associate.

 

Yes I did miss the humor part in it. Usually a or a helps since reading a response can go either way. Like at the end of your comment

anyway I apologize for jumping on your post before having a cup of coffee.

I agree with you 100% that there are other factors and that is why I stated looks and attitude will play a big part in the finally decision although I agree that a 20 year old with a vette will need more than a good attitude which is unfortunate, but the the way the system works.

 

Not quite a campus, but the cop described it as such.

East Brunswick High School.

I think I will plead guilty and have it pushed back and try to see what my options are. Hopefully I can take an Unsafe Driving.

In terms of gears, I think small tracks like the E-Town track will be the only ones that I will be thinking of attending. So I guess that 4.10s may work out. Maybe 3.90s. But I'm probably going to drop the forced induction option. A fully bolted on Vette is already quick enough for daily driving anyway.

 

Damn this is one post that you got your opponent schooled.. All facts.. Bravo... Nice post...

 

If you plead guilty, you don't get to try and change it to unsafe driving. Turn the ticket over, the number to the EB Municipal Court is on the back. Call the municipal court immediately, plead not guilty, ask for an adjournment. Drop me PM. Be glad to help you out. You don't want to start out your driving career being behind the 8 ball.

Now it is time for the scolding - I am a guy that has been there, done that. I spent a lot of time in municipal court as a younger man. I grew up a town over from you (No. Bruns). Levels of affluence seem somewhat similar ( I too had the nicest (and fastest) cars in school). I was the guy that would not think twice about going 175 mph on the open parts of route 18. I grew up thinking that the highways were my racetracks. After 30+ municipal court appearances, I learned my lesson. Your post from last week that you were racing 150 mph vs tt porsches is downright wrong - you're 17 years old - how much high speed training could you have? Even if you had a ton of it, you should save this for the racetrack. EBPD is known for being tough, especially on their students. They don't want any of them to die. Review what has happened in Freehold and Jackson during the past year. Don't join those kids. It even happened in EB earlier this year - that hit and run that killed a girl (her mother is my client). Respect the car, respect the road; you'll live longer and you won't accumulate points on your license.

OK, off the soapbox. PM if you want or need help.

 

I've sent you a PM.

 

Fuel consumption

 

Yeah mine dropped to 29.8 mpg on my 1000 mile drive to Alabama. That was observed not what the DIC said.

 

Unlike your posts about 4.10s and your street race victories that you brag about

 

on the highway almost none. With H/C setup and 4.10s I average 28.8 mpg on the Garden State Parkway which has tolls. The best I did on a stock vette with 3.42s was 30.1.

Around town I lost about 2 or a little more.

 

That's very generous of you to help out, and good advice.

One thing I learned from multiple tickets at 17, was that once you do hit the race track, you will not bother racing on the street. (at least that's what happened for me, and zero tickets for 15+ years can concur) It can never hold the amount of speed/cornering etc that a real race track can, and your not involving others that did not wish to play. Thinking from a 17 year old's perspective, you simply cant go as fast or for the length of time I would like too on the street!

At a minimum, you will either pay for it in entry fee's or traffic fines, I'll take entry fee's thank you!