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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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I need the exact tire diameter for the tires on a 2008 C6 6-Speed Manual with a Z51 package. I am calculating Max MPH in each gear to decide what rear axle ratio to put in. Any help is appreciated.
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I need the exact tire diameter for the tires on a 2008 C6 6-Speed Manual with a Z51 package. I am calculating Max MPH in each gear to decide what rear axle ratio to put in. Any help is appreciated.
If you have Excel -- http://bolero.csustan.edu/C6/C6_Gears.xls -- and if not there are converters online.

To answer your question -- it's 26.85" for the 285/35/19 tires (285/25.4 * 0.35 * 2 + 19).

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I've always calculated it exactly the way Dan did. But it does give you a small error since tires squat a little. The most accurate way to calculate the exact speed is to go to tirerack.com and get the revs per mile for your exact rear tire.

Tirerack lists the Supercar 285/35-19 as 26.9" in diameter and 775 revs per mile. If you use the 26.9" diameter you would get 750 revs per mile, so you can see you'd actually be 3% off on your calculations.
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I've always calculated it exactly the way Dan did. But it does give you a small error since tires squat a little. The most accurate way to calculate the exact speed is to go to tirerack.com and get the revs per mile for your exact rear tire.

Tirerack lists the Supercar 285/35-19 as 26.9" in diameter and 775 revs per mile. If you use the 26.9" diameter you would get 750 revs per mile, so you can see you'd actually be 3% off on your calculations.
Correct. They show the GS2s at 805 rev/mile. I wonder what accounts for the difference between the Supercar (775) and GS2 EMTs (805) in rev/mile?

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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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Correct. They show the GS2s at 805 rev/mile. I wonder what accounts for the difference between the Supercar (775) and GS2 EMTs (805) in rev/mile?

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That is really weird. You wouldn't think that the tires would be that different being that they are both stiff runflats. This means that either the standard runflat squats more or grows less at speed or a combo of both effects.
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Isn't that because the supercars start with less tread?
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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I measured both, unweighted and they both measured 26.7". I did this after using the tirerack.com statistic and not getting my speed adjusted right. Once I measured it made sense.
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As for track....128 is the top with 4.10's. Thats high 10's. If you plan on mid to low tens get 3.90's. It will require forced in duction since no car that is head/cam ever got under 10.8. N2O can do it too. Dont get a gear set because you think its better for traction to get 3.90's instead of 4.10's.
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Originally Posted by glennhl
That is really weird. You wouldn't think that the tires would be that different being that they are both stiff runflats. This means that either the standard runflat squats more or grows less at speed or a combo of both effects.
After seeing some the following posts I did some calcs which make no sense giving the numbers/specs listed online.

GS2s w/805 rev/mile give a 25.05" diameter vs. the listed 26.9".

Supercars w/775 rev/mile give a 26.02" diameter vs. the listed 26.9".

Something is off.

Having less tread (on the Supercars) would result in a smaller diameter (in theory) and higher revs/mile.

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I've always used the 'width x the sidewall % x 2 then divided by 25.4 + the wheel diamter' method as well and had come up with 26.85 for our rear tires. But the above info is also critical in determining the true overall diameter.
Also consider tire wear when making these calculations for a tire with 15,000 miles on it will not be quite as tall overall as one with 15 miles on it.
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Got to thinking and looked at my tune in the Speedo area. OEM (A6 non/Z51) mine was set to a tire size of 26.80" and the 2.56 gear.

Anyone with a manual and/or Z51 want to post what your settings are? We can see if GM is allowing for the different posted tire specs. And if not, perhaps the listed specs at Tire Rack are just wrong.

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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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www.discounttire.com they have what you need. info center



this gets you really close

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.dos

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