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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 11:42 PM
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I dropped my wheels and new Firestone Wide Oval tires off to have them mounted and the shop said the rubber grommits that seal the low tire pressure sensors to the rim where shot.

Anybody had a similar problem? Where can I get new ones? The Dealer?
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 11:58 PM
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I dropped my wheels and new Firestone Wide Oval tires off to have them mounted and the shop said the rubber grommits that seal the low tire pressure sensors to the rim where shot.

Anybody had a similar problem? Where can I get new ones? The Dealer?
Common problem, always good to have a few extra, but not sure who carries them, I would like too know as well
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 12:06 AM
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I dropped my wheels and new Firestone Wide Oval tires off to have them mounted and the shop said the rubber grommits that seal the low tire pressure sensors to the rim where shot.

Anybody had a similar problem? Where can I get new ones? The Dealer?
Quite a few owners have reported slow loss of tire pressure and lots of times it has been due to improperly torqued sensor retaining nuts.

If they aren't tight enough you can have problems, but probably most of the problems are from them being torqued down too tight.

I took a look in your profile and see you HRE wheels. I imagine that who ever mounted your tires/sensors on those wheels over-torqued the crap out of your sensor retaining nuts and squashed the grommets.

The nuts have a very low torque spec of 62 inch-lbs (that's only about 5 ft-lbs).

Most every tire shop should have grommets and nickel plated valve stem cores for sensors on all makes/models of vehicles. ALL vehicles less than 10,000 lbs must have a TPMS and sensors beginning with the 2008 model year, so all tire shops should be able to properly take care of sensors.

The party line from the sensor manufacturers and the tire mounting lobby is that you should put on new grommets every time you remount a sensor, therefore your tire shop should have grommets. However, if sensors were mounted properly and the nuts installed/torqued properly they shouldn't be damaged when installed. If your tire shop doesn't have grommets you can get them at the dealer. It sounds like your shop may not know how to work with sensors.

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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 12:29 AM
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Not sure about the C6, but I got O-rings at Home Depot for the C5 - I think #9, but don't quote me...
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Here's what I believe is the grommet for our sensors. Make sure you check it out with your parts department if you go to a dealer to get them.

This is from forum vendor Gene Culley's site at http://gmpartshouse.com and shows the discount price from him:

GM Part Number: 25754190
Tire pressure monitor components - Tire sensor - Grommet
MSRP: $3.42 your price: $2.61


These things look like they should cost about 1 cent each, but there seems to be huge GM tax!

Most all full service tire shops should have kits with parts to service sensors made by all the various manufacturers.

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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 12:37 AM
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Not sure about the C6, but I got O-rings at Home Depot for the C5 - I think #9, but don't quote me...
Yeah....you could probably use any rubber O-ring that would seal up the area, but you can see in the photo below (well, sort of - it's kinda fuzzy) that the official grommet is a stepped thing that is sort of squared off at the stepped areas.

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Thanks to all.

The guy who torqued them down is me. One was leaking, so I tightened them all. The one which leaker was very sensitive to how tight. Just a small change and it leaked. I am not sure, but area where the grommet is seated on the HRE wheel may be part of the problem. I will get them on Monday.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BEZ06
Yeah....you could probably use any rubber O-ring that would seal up the area, but you can see in the photo below (well, sort of - it's kinda fuzzy) that the official grommet is a stepped thing that is sort of squared off at the stepped areas.

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I am having a problem with my right front on my 05 C6. Brand new tire inflated to 30psi cold. Once I get about 5 miles from home the right front starts losing pressure and continues until the tire reaches full operating temperature. It is dropping from 30 psi to 17 psi in about 6 miles or so and then it stabilizes. I thought it might be a defective tire so it was replaced by tire rack at no charge. Got the new tire on and all seemed well until yesterday, same scenario. I even took soapy water with me this morning to test the valve, core and outer bead right when it starts losing pressure. Got on interstate and just like clockwork tire started losing air then I pulled over. Sprayed entire bead area and stem, no bubbles anywhere. I continued on and lost 2 more psi before I got home. I am thinking it may be a TMPS or grommit issue. What do you think.

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Originally Posted by Res1cue
I am having a problem with my right front on my 05 C6. Brand new tire inflated to 30psi cold. Once I get about 5 miles from home the right front starts losing pressure and continues until the tire reaches full operating temperature. It is dropping from 30 psi to 17 psi in about 6 miles or so and then it stabilizes. I thought it might be a defective tire so it was replaced by tire rack at no charge. Got the new tire on and all seemed well until yesterday, same scenario. I even took soapy water with me this morning to test the valve, core and outer bead right when it starts losing pressure. Got on interstate and just like clockwork tire started losing air then I pulled over. Sprayed entire bead area and stem, no bubbles anywhere. I continued on and lost 2 more psi before I got home. I am thinking it may be a TMPS or grommit issue. What do you think.

John
Wow! If it's doing it even with a new tire and doesn't appear to be losing air around the bead, I would guess the TPMS grommet might be about the only other place it could be leaking.

The sensor is very light weight, but I guess at highway speeds there is probably enough centrifugal force pulling on the sensor to perhaps pull on it or twist it enough to deform the grommet and allow it to leak.

I can't imagine it, but could there possibly be a crack in the wheel somewhere? I suppose if you've checked everything else you might have to break the bead on the tire to get in there and take out the sensor to inspect/replace the grommet.

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Any tire repair facility will have rebuild kits for the sensors. These rebuild kits include the rubber O-ring, valve core, valve cap, and the stem nut-for a grand total of $6 for the kit I they don't have or even know about then maybe you should find another place to do the work
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Any tire repair facility will have rebuild kits for the sensors. These rebuild kits include the rubber O-ring, valve core, valve cap, and the stem nut-for a grand total of $6 for the kit I they don't have or even know about then maybe you should find another place to do the work


Here's a link to a Schrader webpage:

http://schrader-bridgeport.com/broch...ation_id=11400

Schrader makes our sensors, and you can see they supply the kits AutoCutter is talking about.

I agree that if they don't have this stuff available then they may not be very knowledgeable or up to date on tire sensors and TPMS.

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