A6 tuning
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Melting Slicks
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A6 tuning
I saw a thread here some time ago where a tuner said that he could tune the A6 to the point where it would start in 1st instead of 2nd as designed by the factory when using the paddle.
Talked to my tuner and he said that he would like to know where to get the tune for that. He would upgrade my A6 to do that if someone would tell him where to get the software, so anyone know about this software? Thanks
Talked to my tuner and he said that he would like to know where to get the tune for that. He would upgrade my A6 to do that if someone would tell him where to get the software, so anyone know about this software? Thanks
Drifting
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I saw a thread here some time ago where a tuner said that he could tune the A6 to the point where it would start in 1st instead of 2nd as designed by the factory when using the paddle.
Talked to my tuner and he said that he would like to know where to get the tune for that. He would upgrade my A6 to do that if someone would tell him where to get the software, so anyone know about this software? Thanks
Talked to my tuner and he said that he would like to know where to get the tune for that. He would upgrade my A6 to do that if someone would tell him where to get the software, so anyone know about this software? Thanks
--Dan
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Melting Slicks
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I use HP Tuners. Go into the Editor to Trans/Auto Shift Speed/Tap-Up Tap-Down/Normal and set 2>1 Shift at 1 or more. OEM is set to zero so it never automatically shifts into 1st at a stop. This will have the car start in 1st with paddle-mode engaged. The down side is that the car will remain in 1st until you shift up (unless also changed.) I went back to starting in 2nd (OEM) as a speed range of 0-80 mph is nice around town with no shifts.
--Dan
--Dan
If I am reading rest of the thread correctly, if my tuner makes the change listed above, then when I am using the paddle mode, then my car will now downshift to 1st gear when coming to a stop instead of the factory setting of 2nd gear, is this correct? I would assume that rest of the fuction would remaining the sam where I would now have to shift up manually however the car will down shift on it's own depending on the speed as I slow down. Is this correct. Thanks
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I don't understand about the part where you say " as speed range of 0-80mph is nice around town with no shifts" If I am in the paddle mode, the transmission will not shift up no matter how fast you are going, isn't this correct?
If I am reading rest of the thread correctly, if my tuner makes the change listed above, then when I am using the paddle mode, then my car will now downshift to 1st gear when coming to a stop instead of the factory setting of 2nd gear, is this correct? I would assume that rest of the fuction would remaining the sam where I would now have to shift up manually however the car will down shift on it's own depending on the speed as I slow down. Is this correct. Thanks
If I am reading rest of the thread correctly, if my tuner makes the change listed above, then when I am using the paddle mode, then my car will now downshift to 1st gear when coming to a stop instead of the factory setting of 2nd gear, is this correct? I would assume that rest of the fuction would remaining the sam where I would now have to shift up manually however the car will down shift on it's own depending on the speed as I slow down. Is this correct. Thanks
You are correct. If you put a 1 in the 2->1 row, when you hit 1 mph, it will downshift to 1st in paddle mode. Some go higher, but too much higher than that and you're turning the paddle mode into an automatic. I like 1, because I can manually downshift to 1st at speeds higher than 1 mph. 1 is if I'm lazy or forget. If I stop (or almost stop at 1 mph), it's always going to be in 1st. Everything else works the same as the factory settings.
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Yes, you understand it correctly. I currently have mine tuned that way but haven't decided which way I like best. Each have up/downsides.
1st gear launching is great but it's difficult to upshift when you're turning after a stop. 2nd gear is more practical to get you through most turns.
My question is, why have your tuner buy the tool to do it? I wouldn't pay more than $20 to tune that. How much do you think he'll charge you when it costs about $100 per vehicle until he tunes enough to buy licenses in bulk. Buy HPtuners yourself and you can do a LOT more. Just a thought
1st gear launching is great but it's difficult to upshift when you're turning after a stop. 2nd gear is more practical to get you through most turns.
My question is, why have your tuner buy the tool to do it? I wouldn't pay more than $20 to tune that. How much do you think he'll charge you when it costs about $100 per vehicle until he tunes enough to buy licenses in bulk. Buy HPtuners yourself and you can do a LOT more. Just a thought
Drifting
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From: Turlock CA
I don't understand about the part where you say " as speed range of 0-80mph is nice around town with no shifts" If I am in the paddle mode, the transmission will not shift up no matter how fast you are going, isn't this correct?
If I am reading rest of the thread correctly, if my tuner makes the change listed above, then when I am using the paddle mode, then my car will now downshift to 1st gear when coming to a stop instead of the factory setting of 2nd gear, is this correct? I would assume that rest of the fuction would remaining the sam where I would now have to shift up manually however the car will down shift on it's own depending on the speed as I slow down. Is this correct. Thanks
If I am reading rest of the thread correctly, if my tuner makes the change listed above, then when I am using the paddle mode, then my car will now downshift to 1st gear when coming to a stop instead of the factory setting of 2nd gear, is this correct? I would assume that rest of the fuction would remaining the sam where I would now have to shift up manually however the car will down shift on it's own depending on the speed as I slow down. Is this correct. Thanks
Yes, with the change, when you come to a stop (<1 mph) the A6 will drop down into 1st. You can set the speed higher if you wish and can also adjust the downshift speed in each other gear do whatever you prefer. Upshifts are controlled separately and are typlically set to 318 mph as you can see in the image posted by DaveC6.
--Dan
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Melting Slicks
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Yes, you understand it correctly. I currently have mine tuned that way but haven't decided which way I like best. Each have up/downsides.
1st gear launching is great but it's difficult to upshift when you're turning after a stop. 2nd gear is more practical to get you through most turns.
My question is, why have your tuner buy the tool to do it? I wouldn't pay more than $20 to tune that. How much do you think he'll charge you when it costs about $100 per vehicle until he tunes enough to buy licenses in bulk. Buy HPtuners yourself and you can do a LOT more. Just a thought
1st gear launching is great but it's difficult to upshift when you're turning after a stop. 2nd gear is more practical to get you through most turns.
My question is, why have your tuner buy the tool to do it? I wouldn't pay more than $20 to tune that. How much do you think he'll charge you when it costs about $100 per vehicle until he tunes enough to buy licenses in bulk. Buy HPtuners yourself and you can do a LOT more. Just a thought
I will give my tuner this thread so he can look up the change.
Thanks for all the response. Guys on this forum is great.
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Just remember, it's downshifting because you're apparently forgetting to do it yourself in paddle mode. So if you're not paying attention, and suddenly find yourself in 1st gear, you're not going to get far before winding it out and making a spectacle of yourself in the middle of an intersection.
I can almost assure you I'll be putting it back to stock settings once the novelty wears off.
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I saw a thread here some time ago where a tuner said that he could tune the A6 to the point where it would start in 1st instead of 2nd as designed by the factory when using the paddle.
Talked to my tuner and he said that he would like to know where to get the tune for that. He would upgrade my A6 to do that if someone would tell him where to get the software, so anyone know about this software? Thanks
Talked to my tuner and he said that he would like to know where to get the tune for that. He would upgrade my A6 to do that if someone would tell him where to get the software, so anyone know about this software? Thanks
I hear alot of good things about them. I forget where I saw it but, there is a shop that does the "Paddle Reverse Mod"Maybe you can search it here or google it. You can still shift with your thumbs but you upshift by pulling or pushing the right side and you downshift by pulling or pushing the left side or I'm not mistaken. If that's the case, I would do the HP Tuner, paddle reverse mod and 3.15 gears if I owned an A6. But that's just me
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HP Tuners I hear alot of good things about them. I forget where I saw it but, there is a shop that does the "Paddle Reverse Mod"
Maybe you can search it here or google it. You can still shift with your thumbs but you upshift by pulling or pushing the right side and you downshift by pulling or pushing the left side or I'm not mistaken. If that's the case, I would do the HP Tuner, paddle reverse mod and 3.15 gears if I owned an A6. But that's just me
I hear alot of good things about them. I forget where I saw it but, there is a shop that does the "Paddle Reverse Mod"Maybe you can search it here or google it. You can still shift with your thumbs but you upshift by pulling or pushing the right side and you downshift by pulling or pushing the left side or I'm not mistaken. If that's the case, I would do the HP Tuner, paddle reverse mod and 3.15 gears if I owned an A6. But that's just me
I forget now but someone starting selling a replacement paddle but I prefer the free method.
--Dan
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Or ... you can use my instructions -- http://web.mac.com/dbrat10/iWeb/C6-A6/index.html -- from being the first person to make the "paddle-reverse mod."
I forget now but someone starting selling a replacement paddle but I prefer the free method.
--Dan
I forget now but someone starting selling a replacement paddle but I prefer the free method.
--Dan
I don't even own an A6 & I thought that was awesome when this was started. I drove an A6 once and thought it would have been better the other way. Great idea, that should have been that way from the factory. I like how you still have the option to push or pull on either side.
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First, thank you for the free mod instructions, I saw them a while ago, nice job.
For those who don't like tinkering, ECS sells/installs modules to change the paddles.
That being said, and as much as I hate GM's method, I don't think I'll be changing mine. I figure I can get used to it given time. I don't want to get used to a non-oem paddle and then be all screwed up on my next car. It's just not worth the re-learning curve. Perhaps if I had another vehicle that acted the way I like, I'd make them both the same.
For those who don't like tinkering, ECS sells/installs modules to change the paddles.
That being said, and as much as I hate GM's method, I don't think I'll be changing mine. I figure I can get used to it given time. I don't want to get used to a non-oem paddle and then be all screwed up on my next car. It's just not worth the re-learning curve. Perhaps if I had another vehicle that acted the way I like, I'd make them both the same.
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First, thank you for the free mod instructions, I saw them a while ago, nice job.
For those who don't like tinkering, ECS sells/installs modules to change the paddles.
That being said, and as much as I hate GM's method, I don't think I'll be changing mine. I figure I can get used to it given time. I don't want to get used to a non-oem paddle and then be all screwed up on my next car. It's just not worth the re-learning curve. Perhaps if I had another vehicle that acted the way I like, I'd make them both the same.
For those who don't like tinkering, ECS sells/installs modules to change the paddles.
That being said, and as much as I hate GM's method, I don't think I'll be changing mine. I figure I can get used to it given time. I don't want to get used to a non-oem paddle and then be all screwed up on my next car. It's just not worth the re-learning curve. Perhaps if I had another vehicle that acted the way I like, I'd make them both the same.
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HP Tuners I hear alot of good things about them. I forget where I saw it but, there is a shop that does the "Paddle Reverse Mod"
Maybe you can search it here or google it. You can still shift with your thumbs but you upshift by pulling or pushing the right side and you downshift by pulling or pushing the left side or I'm not mistaken. If that's the case, I would do the HP Tuner, paddle reverse mod and 3.15 gears if I owned an A6. But that's just me
I hear alot of good things about them. I forget where I saw it but, there is a shop that does the "Paddle Reverse Mod"Maybe you can search it here or google it. You can still shift with your thumbs but you upshift by pulling or pushing the right side and you downshift by pulling or pushing the left side or I'm not mistaken. If that's the case, I would do the HP Tuner, paddle reverse mod and 3.15 gears if I owned an A6. But that's just me
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