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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 09:53 PM
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I have a 2008 C6 and it has the Z51 package. It is a bit of a harsh ride. I was thinking of adding Koni FSDs type shocks. I read in a couple of places that it can lower ride height some. Is this true at all? I dont see how it can if the car sits on springs and the shock just controls the bound and rebound. Unless somehow the shocks are preloaded or something. I dont understand. If it does lower the car some is there any problem with camber or tire wear as well as the tires bottoming out in the fender wells? Thanks
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the posts that I have read say it does drop a little over a 1/2 inch, they measured the car before and after. The shocks typically control more of the ride heigth than the springs do.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 10:53 PM
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I put FSD's on my 330i and it lowered it by about 1/4". I've read on other car forums where people have mentioned it lowered their cars as well. Probably will have the same effect on the C6.
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The stock shock is a high pressure unit that offsets some of the sprung weight seen by the leaf spring. When taking them off, they have to be strapped in the compressed position before attempting to remove them. The FSDs, on the other hand, are an entirely different design that, among other things, uses a low pressure gas that is easily compressed by hand. This allows more weight on the spring and they settle in at a lower ride height, which can be offset with a readjustment.

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Default Mine dropped about a 1/4"

I was expecting a larger drop with the Koni FSD install.

I have a 05 Z-51 stock ride height. I was expecting more of a drop and thought I might need to use the lowering bolts to raise the height back up (there are NASTY speed bumps at the AFB where I work).

One interesting note is that when I measured the four corners prior to the Koni install, all the corners were different heights (by as much as 1/2"). I measured from the floor to the top center of the wheel-well (I know body panels differ in fit and this is only a rough way to measure ride height).

After the Koni install, the left-to-right height was almost exactly the same (not like prior to the install) and about a 1/4" or less overall drop in ride height. Maybe the non Z-51 cars (softer springs) drop more. I did my after shock measurements after about 100 miles local driving to make sure they had settled in a bit.

I am very happy with the Koni shocks. The ride and handling are better with the Koni's (I think the stock Z-51 is pretty darn good to begin with).

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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Carnac
One interesting note is that when I measured the four corners prior to the Koni install, all the corners were different heights (by as much as 1/2"). I measured from the floor to the top center of the wheel-well (I know body panels differ in fit and this is only a rough way to measure ride height).
You bring up an interesting point. Where, exactly, is the most convenient place to measure ride height accurately?
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My Z51 dropped after FSD install. It took about 2 turns on the front and 1 1/2 turns on the rear to restore the ride height. I measured from the lower A-arm pivot bolt to the floor. I noticed up to 1/4" variation in the measurements from day to day so I suggest doing it a few times and using the average. Also, make sure you are measuring in the same location on the floor. I marked my garage floor to be sure I was in the same spot each time a measurement was taken.
I don't 1/8" or so change in ride height will affect camber or toe enough to matter but I have not done the test.
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Gramps
You bring up an interesting point. Where, exactly, is the most convenient place to measure ride height accurately?
The service manual recommends that the ride height be measured using a tool from the lower control arm pivot to the lowest point of the control arm. They also recomment that you take 3 measurements after pushing down on the car and then three measurements after lift up on the car and take the average. The car will settle at different heights each time.
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Mine definitely dropped some, but I haven't measured. When I get an alignment, I'll have it all reset to stock height.
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Default Mine dropped

After the car settled, I noted that I scraped more in the approach to my garage from the driveway, and on some dips on the street that I take regularly. I didn't measure to see what the difference was. It definitely changed the camber on the front. I noted that I started to wear the inside edges of my front tires some, and I'd had it aligned prior to the Koni conversion. I went back up 4 turns on the front on each side, and think it's about back where it was now. Hopefully that'll put me back about where my orig alignment specs were. I'll watch the inside tire wear closely, too. I checked the rears, and they're wearing evenly, so I did not go back up on the rear.
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Mine also dropped, ~1/2". I started scraping in places I hadn't before, so had my local shop ( HP Sales) raise it up ~1/2". No more problems.
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I notice most here have posted larger drops with the Z-51 package. The Z-51 has softer springs and stiffer shocks then the non Z-51. This may explain why they tend to have a more dramatic change in ride height with a shock change then the non Z-51's.
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Originally Posted by SvetteC6
The Z-51 has softer springs and stiffer shocks then the non Z-51.
Only the rear spring is softer. The front is stiffer.

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Originally Posted by TommyV
Only the rear spring is softer. The front is stiffer.

And the difference in the rears is probably within the manufacturing tolerances (about 1.3%)
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Originally Posted by TommyV
Only the rear spring is softer. The front is stiffer.

And only by 12 lbs. Negligible.
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The base car has low pressure shocks (twintubes) which are closer in pressure to the FSD's. This is why there isn't as much difference.
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