Some Quick Dyno #'s on Absorbtion Dyno
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Some Quick Dyno #'s on Absorbtion Dyno
Thought I would post up some quick numbers that Ed @ B&P Performance got out of my car today on his brand new absorbtion dyno....The chart compares the "Canned" 93 Octane Header Tune, that comes in the Predator handheld vs. a quick custom tune done by Ed....just some max power #'s for now as the car sits. He's doing a ported Intake and Tb, along with a set of Harland Sharp 1.8 Rockers and a full tune this week to the car. We just wanted to get some baseline numbers before the new mods.
HP 362.1
TQ 384.9
HP 362.1
TQ 384.9
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So pretty much your car gained nothing with the canned predator tune, as 345rwhp is close to the stock average.
This again goes to show anyone wondering, that you can't beat a custom tune, way too much power is left on the table.
BTW your results are in-line with others who've got a custom tune after using a Diablo handheld, each time there are massive gains........would save the person $ just to get a custom tune from the start.
Nice results!
This again goes to show anyone wondering, that you can't beat a custom tune, way too much power is left on the table.
BTW your results are in-line with others who've got a custom tune after using a Diablo handheld, each time there are massive gains........would save the person $ just to get a custom tune from the start.
Nice results!
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10
Mike good numbers there. Looks like + 19 Tq and + 17 Hp , Your
predator tune vs Pro tune. My gut tells me your going to do 400 with
the ported units and the advantage of the HARLAND SHARP rockers. My
tuner also says HARLAND SHARP is the way to go. I think you are going to 1.80 or was it 1.70 ? Anyway good luck with your next set of numbers. Leon
predator tune vs Pro tune. My gut tells me your going to do 400 with
the ported units and the advantage of the HARLAND SHARP rockers. My
tuner also says HARLAND SHARP is the way to go. I think you are going to 1.80 or was it 1.70 ? Anyway good luck with your next set of numbers. Leon
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So pretty much your car gained nothing with the canned predator tune, as 345rwhp is close to the stock average.
This again goes to show anyone wondering, that you can't beat a custom tune, way too much power is left on the table.
BTW your results are in-line with others who've got a custom tune after using a Diablo handheld, each time there are massive gains........would save the person $ just to get a custom tune from the start.
Nice results!
This again goes to show anyone wondering, that you can't beat a custom tune, way too much power is left on the table.
BTW your results are in-line with others who've got a custom tune after using a Diablo handheld, each time there are massive gains........would save the person $ just to get a custom tune from the start.
Nice results!
His car has intake and headers as well...so 345 seems VERY low.
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Full exhaust on a manual with a canned tune resulting in 345 is still horridly low though.
His new numbers are a different story
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His hp numbers are questionable with the canned tune and we did make some great strides with the tune, but in his cars defense, absorbtion dynos read differently than inertia machines and the torque at that point wasn't out of line. He needs more airflow to get the Hp numbers up there as well. Also I didn't rev it quite as high on the canned tune run, there was knock and the fueling was out of line. It might have made more if I revved it to the moon.
Ed
Ed
Wish more people would take a look at threads like this, would help them make a better informed decision on which to go with (handheld vs shop tuner)
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Drifting
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So pretty much your car gained nothing with the canned predator tune, as 345rwhp is close to the stock average.
This again goes to show anyone wondering, that you can't beat a custom tune, way too much power is left on the table.
BTW your results are in-line with others who've got a custom tune after using a Diablo handheld, each time there are massive gains........would save the person $ just to get a custom tune from the start.
Nice results!
This again goes to show anyone wondering, that you can't beat a custom tune, way too much power is left on the table.
BTW your results are in-line with others who've got a custom tune after using a Diablo handheld, each time there are massive gains........would save the person $ just to get a custom tune from the start.
Nice results!
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Drifting
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From: Middletown DE
Mike good numbers there. Looks like + 19 Tq and + 17 Hp , Your
predator tune vs Pro tune. My gut tells me your going to do 400 with
the ported units and the advantage of the HARLAND SHARP rockers. My
tuner also says HARLAND SHARP is the way to go. I think you are going to 1.80 or was it 1.70 ? Anyway good luck with your next set of numbers. Leon
predator tune vs Pro tune. My gut tells me your going to do 400 with
the ported units and the advantage of the HARLAND SHARP rockers. My
tuner also says HARLAND SHARP is the way to go. I think you are going to 1.80 or was it 1.70 ? Anyway good luck with your next set of numbers. Leon
I'm going with the 1.8 HS rockers, BTW.
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Final #'s ARE IN!!!!!!!
Ok, below is the final graph after the Ported LS2 Intake & TB, Harland Sharp 1.8 Rockers, and Dyno tune on Ed's Absorbtion Dyno.
Here's some history to catch everyone up:
07 M6 Coupe, 3.42 Gears (Z51). Just passed 3000 miles.
Vararam, Stingers, LG Pros, and Canned Predator Header tune:
345.7 RWHP
365.1 RWTQ
Same Mods, with Ed's tweaking on the dyno:
362.1 RWHP
384.9 RWTQ
Same Mods with addition of Ported LS2 Intake & TB, Harland Sharp 1.8 Rockers:
380.3 RWHP
388.7 RWTQ
A Total 34.6 RWHP and 23.6 RWTQ Increase......Not bad at all . Keep in mind these numbers are on an Absorbtion Dyno and will read a little less than on a Dyno Jet (Inertia Machine) I would think the same car on a Dyno Jet would be in the neighborhood of 400/400
Thanks Again Ed!
Here's some history to catch everyone up:
07 M6 Coupe, 3.42 Gears (Z51). Just passed 3000 miles.
Vararam, Stingers, LG Pros, and Canned Predator Header tune:
345.7 RWHP
365.1 RWTQ
Same Mods, with Ed's tweaking on the dyno:
362.1 RWHP
384.9 RWTQ
Same Mods with addition of Ported LS2 Intake & TB, Harland Sharp 1.8 Rockers:
380.3 RWHP
388.7 RWTQ
A Total 34.6 RWHP and 23.6 RWTQ Increase......Not bad at all . Keep in mind these numbers are on an Absorbtion Dyno and will read a little less than on a Dyno Jet (Inertia Machine) I would think the same car on a Dyno Jet would be in the neighborhood of 400/400
Thanks Again Ed!
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10
Torque Goes Straight Up And Flat
Ok, below is the final graph after the Ported LS2 Intake & TB, Harland Sharp 1.8 Rockers, and Dyno tune on Ed's Absorbtion Dyno.
Here's some history to catch everyone up:
07 M6 Coupe, 3.42 Gears (Z51). Just passed 3000 miles.
Vararam, Stingers, LG Pros, and Canned Predator Header tune:
345.7 RWHP
365.1 RWTQ
Same Mods, with Ed's tweaking on the dyno:
362.1 RWHP
384.9 RWTQ
Same Mods with addition of Ported LS2 Intake & TB, Harland Sharp 1.8 Rockers:
380.3 RWHP
388.7 RWTQ
A Total 34.6 RWHP and 23.6 RWTQ Increase......Not bad at all . Keep in mind these numbers are on an Absorbtion Dyno and will read a little less than on a Dyno Jet (Inertia Machine) I would think the same car on a Dyno Jet would be in the neighborhood of 400/400
Thanks Again Ed!
Here's some history to catch everyone up:
07 M6 Coupe, 3.42 Gears (Z51). Just passed 3000 miles.
Vararam, Stingers, LG Pros, and Canned Predator Header tune:
345.7 RWHP
365.1 RWTQ
Same Mods, with Ed's tweaking on the dyno:
362.1 RWHP
384.9 RWTQ
Same Mods with addition of Ported LS2 Intake & TB, Harland Sharp 1.8 Rockers:
380.3 RWHP
388.7 RWTQ
A Total 34.6 RWHP and 23.6 RWTQ Increase......Not bad at all . Keep in mind these numbers are on an Absorbtion Dyno and will read a little less than on a Dyno Jet (Inertia Machine) I would think the same car on a Dyno Jet would be in the neighborhood of 400/400
Thanks Again Ed!
wouldnt get hung up on peak numbers. Its the increase in the HP/ TQ curve that counts. Good numbers, Leon
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Thanks Leon.....I'm talking to my tuner right now about going with a ported FAST, like you did. You got great results with that over your Ported LS2....I think I need to definately go that route.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10
Considering the FAST ?
said I would want to know who ported it. I would make sure itis done by a notionally recognized name . Maybe ED has some experience with it
or may refer you. The installation is easy when the mods are done.
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The FAST would be a an improvement over OEM. I know i had some money into it though. It was all worth it in the end when the numbers came in. One thing of note with the FAST is there are many sold that includes the porting . " there is porting and there is porting " That being
said I would want to know who ported it. I would make sure itis done by a notionally recognized name . Maybe ED has some experience with it
or may refer you. The installation is easy when the mods are done.
said I would want to know who ported it. I would make sure itis done by a notionally recognized name . Maybe ED has some experience with it
or may refer you. The installation is easy when the mods are done.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10
that being a 90 opened up to 92 also tb match. I think it was Atlantic Speed. Do a search. Good Luck, Leon
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10
that being a 90 opened up to 92 also tb match. I think it was Atlantic Speed. Do a search. Good Luck, Leon
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