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Old May 1, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by thesubfloor
Thanks.

No, unfortunately not. I did all of my mods at once so all I have is the comparison between my current time and what it ran in stock form (12.992 @ 109MPH).

Thats an awesome time there on the 3.15's!! What other mods did you do to get the car to run that?

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Old May 1, 2008 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jogar80
Thats an awesome time there on the 3.15's!! What other mods did you do to get the car to run that?
From front to back:

- Vararam CAI with throttle body spacer
- American Racing headers
- Comp Cams camshaft (230/236, 591/601, 113 LSA)
- 3000 Stall converter
- 3.15 differential
- Borla Stinger Catback
- MT Street ET radials

Here's a video of the run if you're interested:

http://s155.photobucket.com/albums/s...0315144555.flv
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Old May 15, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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Absolutely no difference on the track with 3.45's over 2.92 in a H/C Holden/ Pontiac G8.
Car ran 12.02 with 2.92's @117 then 12.03 with 3.45's stock stalled and over 3900 lbs.
Was trapping at 6700 approx rpm with 2.92 in 3rd, now traps at 6100 approx with 3.45's. in 4th.

Another car here did the same thing and had exactly the same result as me no improvement at all.

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Old May 15, 2008 | 09:37 PM
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Absolutely no difference on the track with 3.45's over 2.92 in a H/C Holden/ Pontiac G8.
Car ran 12.02 with 2.92's @117 then 12.03 with 3.45's stock stalled and over 3900 lbs.
Was trapping at 6700 approx rpm with 2.92 in 3rd, now traps at 6100 approx with 3.45's. in 4th.

Another car here did the same thing and had exactly the same result as me no improvement at all.

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No difference at all? Really? Well that kinda sucks because I'll be installing 3.42's in my car tomorrow afternoon after running 3.15's since last summer.

Come this Wednesday however I'll be able to confirm or deny those numbers once I get back to the track again.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by thesubfloor
No difference at all? Really? Well that kinda sucks because I'll be installing 3.42's in my car tomorrow afternoon after running 3.15's since last summer.

Come this Wednesday however I'll be able to confirm or deny those numbers once I get back to the track again.
Looking forward to your results. Good Luck!
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Old May 15, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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To the O.P - A friend of mine has this paddle mod called "The Paddle Reverse Mod" if I remember correctly. I know this has nothing to do with the gearing or anything, I just figured I would tell you about it so you can look it up or someone on this forum could explain what it is better than I can. I couldn't get in touch with my friend to ask him where he got it. I'm sure a search would find it though. He likes it alot that's all I know.
Good luck with the gears
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Old May 15, 2008 | 10:31 PM
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So Christopher,,,,Your going with lower gears are Ya??
Keep Me posted!!
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Old May 15, 2008 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevy Enforcer
Absolutely no difference on the track with 3.45's over 2.92 in a H/C Holden/ Pontiac G8.
Car ran 12.02 with 2.92's @117 then 12.03 with 3.45's stock stalled and over 3900 lbs.
Was trapping at 6700 approx rpm with 2.92 in 3rd, now traps at 6100 approx with 3.45's. in 4th.
Another car here did the same thing and had exactly the same result as me no improvement at all.
Carefully tested in the same exact weather/track conditions both before and after the gear installs?
And I mean EXACTLY the same?
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Old May 15, 2008 | 11:47 PM
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Old May 16, 2008 | 12:26 AM
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Subn. Waiting for results
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Old May 16, 2008 | 08:54 AM
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Old May 16, 2008 | 09:45 AM
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Gear changes in reality only effect 1st gear. If your car has trouble with bogging then maybe I would consider a gear change, but for the majority of C6 drag racers, traction would be a much larger problem. All a gear swap does is shorten the gears mph range and make the tranny shift more often. That's why typically even a radical gear swap only nets a .1-.2 eta change. It's all made in the first 40 feet or so and after that your car progresses down the track just as it normally does. I'd do a 3000 stall torque converter long before I did a gear swap.
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Old May 16, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Demented
Gear changes in reality only effect 1st gear. If your car has trouble with bogging then maybe I would consider a gear change, but for the majority of C6 drag racers, traction would be a much larger problem. All a gear swap does is shorten the gears mph range and make the tranny shift more often. That's why typically even a radical gear swap only nets a .1-.2 eta change. It's all made in the first 40 feet or so and after that your car progresses down the track just as it normally does. I'd do a 3000 stall torque converter long before I did a gear swap.
I agree with you to an extent. For some cars a gear change may be .5 in the 1/4. For others it only be .1-.2. My car makes 460 rwhp and runs 11.59@ 125 with a 1.9 shorttime. My car has a 2.56 or 2.57. A gear will probably give me .4-.5. My car is an A6. When selecting a gear, you should also use a good gear/rpm chart to determine what rpm you will be at, at a given speed/gear. You will also need a dyno chart to find your max hp/tq to make the right decision. You dont want too much gear and not see enough of your powerband. When you do not have enough gear, you may fall into a 50hp dip in the powerband.
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Old May 16, 2008 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by thesubfloor
No difference at all? Really? Well that kinda sucks because I'll be installing 3.42's in my car tomorrow afternoon after running 3.15's since last summer.

Come this Wednesday however I'll be able to confirm or deny those numbers once I get back to the track again.
Interested in your new setup.
Good luck Christopher.
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Old May 16, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by XvettemanX
god damn it.......SEARCH IT! this damn topic comes up every week and it always gets ugly. keep the peace, avoid talking gears...

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Old May 16, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Dgatto

The topic comes up but the facts/results do not. That is why he is asking
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Old May 16, 2008 | 02:00 PM
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Previously I might have agreed about using more gear to minimize the dips in the powerband but with the advent of the A6 and the tighter ratios, I don't see that as being such an issue as it was in the A4's. Generally all increasing gear does in these cars is cause you to smoke the tires all through first gear. One good tip if you do plan to do a gear swap is to match the top of 4th gear to the mph you need to cross the lights at. So 4th gear@6500 rpms should be 120 mph or so(more or less depending on your hp). If you're not willing to modify your gearing upwards to that ideal number then you're wasting your time/money. I just ran some non-exact numbers but to get those kind of rpms you'll probably need upwards of a 3.60 rear gear to be ideal.

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Old May 16, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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Generally all increasing gear does in these cars is cause you to smoke the tires all through first gear.
That's what stickier tires are for.
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Old May 16, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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That's what stickier tires are for.
I agree.
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Old May 16, 2008 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Demented
I'd do a 3000 stall torque converter long before I did a gear swap.
A good torque converter makes an big improvement. People with 2.56 geared cars would be amazed by the gains. I'd love to see a stock geared car with a 3200 stall line up against a 3.42 car with a stock stall. That would be an interesting race.
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