NPP Converstion
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Instructor
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NPP Converstion
I am looking at getting a 08' Z51 Vette that has the options I like, but not the NPP options. 
How hard would it be to do the converstion and would it be a better idea to get an aftermarket exhaust? Also, is this system just the mufflers with the assoicated hardware to open the bypass valves or is it a whole cat back with bigger pipes? Thanks.
NeoTrunks
How hard would it be to do the converstion and would it be a better idea to get an aftermarket exhaust? Also, is this system just the mufflers with the assoicated hardware to open the bypass valves or is it a whole cat back with bigger pipes? Thanks. NeoTrunks
Racer
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From: ca
Its a really easy if you have the exhaust off.Give Sunsetorangecreations he can set you up with a wireless controller and all the parts for cheaper than anybody.He just hooked me up with parts and was there to answer all my questions.And he came and droped it off at my house on very short notice.
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From: Bay Shore, NY 11706 MILD2WILD (M2W)
St. Jude Donor '06-'07
You need a complete vacuum system like NPP in a box. It installs in less than 10 minutes and saves you hours of labor and $$ running vacuum from the motor. I have over 100 in use and they are sweet
NPP in the box (self contained system to run NPP on any C6) installed in 10 minutes, the guys at his shop were blown away that a car could sound like this. Craig set it to start up with the flaps closed (a simple flip of the switch and you can change it to start open) but when he opened them and hit the gas while I was setting up the camera, I almost went deaf, thanks Craig.
Here is a video I did with my still camera (so it's not great), will take time to load (I can not emphasize enough that you need to turn up the volume and you need a good speaker system (with bass) or a good set of headphones). I have the bose II on my PC and my cabinets shake in the wild mode.
Notice how the inner flaps open and close
Play Video
Here is a repost of Craigster05 post in the tech section
NPP in the box (self contained system to run NPP on any C6) installed in 10 minutes, the guys at his shop were blown away that a car could sound like this. Craig set it to start up with the flaps closed (a simple flip of the switch and you can change it to start open) but when he opened them and hit the gas while I was setting up the camera, I almost went deaf, thanks Craig.
Here is a video I did with my still camera (so it's not great), will take time to load (I can not emphasize enough that you need to turn up the volume and you need a good speaker system (with bass) or a good set of headphones). I have the bose II on my PC and my cabinets shake in the wild mode.
Notice how the inner flaps open and close
Play Video
Here is a repost of Craigster05 post in the tech section
Originally Posted by craigster05
Ed’s NPP in a box, a set of NPP mufflers and a M2W switch will give you an incredibly easy way to have just the sound you want, when you want, if you have a pre-2008 C6. In my case, throw in a set of headers, and you have rolling thunder at the flick of a switch. The combo of the headers and the NPP in Wild gives you AMAZING sound and “HEY, LOOK AT ME!!!” volume…the tonality and sound is that of a NASCAR stock car at WOT outside the car, yet quieter and less drone inside the car than the GHL exhaust I was so fond of. The install is very straight forward, easier with a lift, but as Ed has shown with his car, you can do it on jack stands. Here are some pics and descriptions of the step by step process; you will receive complete illustrated instructions with your purchase.
NPP Mufflers waiting for Install
Factory Exhaust Removed
Drilling a ¼” hole in the rear well
Run the Vacuum Tube though the hole
Run the Vacuum tubes through existing frame locations
After dropping the rear sway bar, snake the NPP mufflers up and over
Attach the pipes to the mufflers
Connect the vacuum hoses to the NPP mufflers
Make sure your muffler pipes are straight and level
Muffler hardware done and vacuum tubing run
Locate vacuum nipple in well
Place NPP controller in bottom and attach vacuum and power lines
Place lid on top, you can still store items here (Does that look perfect or what???)
Connect power cable to the Seat Heater Fuse
And of course, a quick run with Ed's Polishing kit
That's all there is to it.....All that's left is to go out there and have a blast with your new found customized sound.
NPP Mufflers waiting for Install
Factory Exhaust Removed
Drilling a ¼” hole in the rear well
Run the Vacuum Tube though the hole
Run the Vacuum tubes through existing frame locations
After dropping the rear sway bar, snake the NPP mufflers up and over
Attach the pipes to the mufflers
Connect the vacuum hoses to the NPP mufflers
Make sure your muffler pipes are straight and level
Muffler hardware done and vacuum tubing run
Locate vacuum nipple in well
Place NPP controller in bottom and attach vacuum and power lines
Place lid on top, you can still store items here (Does that look perfect or what???)
Connect power cable to the Seat Heater Fuse
And of course, a quick run with Ed's Polishing kit
That's all there is to it.....All that's left is to go out there and have a blast with your new found customized sound.
Last edited by Pipedreams; May 7, 2008 at 06:07 PM.
Burning Brakes
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Power?
Where are you guys grabbing a hot wire? Or are you fishing one to the fuse panel. The pics for everything are clear except that. Also, I assume the NPP controller has some type of mini-compressor (or reverse) built in for the vacuum function. Would someone please give the "Cliff Notes" version of exactly what we're taking about. This would explain the huge price difference in controllers. My NPP mufflers (take offs from an '08) came yesterday & there going on my '05.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09
I am looking at getting a 08' Z51 Vette that has the options I like, but not the NPP options. How hard would it be to do the converstion and would it be a better idea to get an aftermarket exhaust? Also, is this system just the mufflers with the assoicated hardware to open the bypass valves or is it a whole cat back with bigger pipes? Thanks.
NeoTrunks
How hard would it be to do the converstion and would it be a better idea to get an aftermarket exhaust? Also, is this system just the mufflers with the assoicated hardware to open the bypass valves or is it a whole cat back with bigger pipes? Thanks. NeoTrunks
Race Director
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From: Bay Shore, NY 11706 MILD2WILD (M2W)
St. Jude Donor '06-'07
Where are you guys grabbing a hot wire? Or are you fishing one to the fuse panel. The pics for everything are clear except that. Also, I assume the NPP controller has some type of mini-compressor (or reverse) built in for the vacuum function. Would someone please give the "Cliff Notes" version of exactly what we're taking about. This would explain the huge price difference in controllers. My NPP mufflers (take offs from an '08) came yesterday & there going on my '05.
The picture shows power take off at the seat heater fuse. The full instructions are on my web site. I always post the full instruction so you can see whats involved. www.nakidparts.com
Racer
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From: ca
Funney I heard one of the pipdreams boxs and didnt like losing the space inside,and the pump noise.I spent less than an hour hooking up the vacume tubing and putting in the wireless control.And the sunsetorangecreations was a lot cheaper and uses engine vacume like factory and the B&B system.I think there both good i just wanted to save some money and have less parts that could fail.
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Racer
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From: ca
I said could fail not would fail.I think you have a good system mine has less parts TO FAIL in my mind.And when i was done with my install i polished the tips with your pipedreams kit.I wanted others to know there are options that cost less.
Race Director
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From: Bay Shore, NY 11706 MILD2WILD (M2W)
St. Jude Donor '06-'07
Funney I heard one of the pipdreams boxs and didnt like losing the space inside,and the pump noise.I spent less than an hour hooking up the vacume tubing and putting in the wireless control.And the sunsetorangecreations was a lot cheaper and uses engine vacume like factory and the B&B system.I think there both good i just wanted to save some money and have less parts that could fail.
PS what makes you think my parts would fail, when you do things right you have no issues. The only part your are missing is my pump and it's rated for 20,000 hours of constant use and only see a few seconds of operation per day.
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I can easily hear the pump run when sitting still or if I'm on a smooth road and under about 30 mph. I actually don't mind hearing it, because if there is a leak, it will run often.
Racer
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First time I every heard that, you 100% cant hear the pump run and it only runs for 2-3 second and then shuts off.
I can easily hear the pump run when sitting still or if I'm on a smooth road and under about 30 mph. I actually don't mind hearing it, because if there is a leak, it will run often.
Funney i quess thats the second time he now heard it makes some noise.Both are a good deal but i think $150 sunsetorangecreations with less parts is a better deal for people doing there own install.If the chevy z06 and npp,and B&B use engine vacume thats telling me something!
I can easily hear the pump run when sitting still or if I'm on a smooth road and under about 30 mph. I actually don't mind hearing it, because if there is a leak, it will run often.
Funney i quess thats the second time he now heard it makes some noise.Both are a good deal but i think $150 sunsetorangecreations with less parts is a better deal for people doing there own install.If the chevy z06 and npp,and B&B use engine vacume thats telling me something!
Race Director
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From: Bay Shore, NY 11706 MILD2WILD (M2W)
St. Jude Donor '06-'07
Funney i quess thats the second time he now heard it makes some noise.Both are a good deal but i think $150 sunsetorangecreations with less parts is a better deal for people doing there own install.If the chevy z06 and npp,and B&B use engine vacume thats telling me something!
It's your choice, but since you don't have my system you should stick to what you know and have
You want to push your friends system fine, just don't do it by trying to but mine down 
Last edited by Pipedreams; May 8, 2008 at 07:35 AM.
Safety Car
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I'm installing one of these systems as well (the B&B Fusion). Checked out all the options and the B&B vacuum kit from Sunset Orange was my best option. Installation is simple enough, price is right, and no vacuum pump required. Extra noises in the car drive me nuts, so I really didn't want the loud electric pump.
Race Director
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From: Bay Shore, NY 11706 MILD2WILD (M2W)
St. Jude Donor '06-'07
I'm installing one of these systems as well (the B&B Fusion). Checked out all the options and the B&B vacuum kit from Sunset Orange was my best option. Installation is simple enough, price is right, and no vacuum pump required. Extra noises in the car drive me nuts, so I really didn't want the loud electric pump.
Safety Car
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If we are picking out all the details, why do you recommend the B&B system with the Fusion? I don't see how the control system and mufflers are related. Either one will work together exactly the same.
