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Old May 6, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Freaked Ls3
my c6 hit 419rwhp ona mustang dyno and 429rwhp on a dyno jet with no other mods.
I've read your post before and like I told the other gentleman who's number were very low, he got a bad reading. In your case your numbers are very high and you also have a bad reading. It is obvious, ls2's and 3's and 7's lose 55 in the manual and 65 in the auto and the ZR1 loses 65-67. To think you have the only car in the world that lost 7 hp in the drivetrain is silly. I've asked you to post dyno sheets to no avail. The numbers sound good for bragging rights however I don't think they are good readings. There is no way in hell you hit 429 on a dynojet unless the numbers are bad. At 429 your car should run 11.5 in the 1/4 mile on runflats. Do you have a time slip to show us?
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Old May 6, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Freaked Ls3
my c6 hit 419rwhp ona mustang dyno and 429rwhp on a dyno jet with no other mods.
Read through the pages of this thread and look the the numbers being reported. 370's and 380 mostly. Several post with headers 424. How is it you get 429 stock?
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Old May 6, 2009 | 03:25 PM
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My bone stock '08 with A6 did 375.5 RWHP and 376.0 RWTQ.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 04:39 PM
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In my experience you can and will see different numbers from the same car on the same dyno, day to day. There are a lot of factors that contribute to this. Once different cars and different dynos at different locations come into play, then it becomes really diluted. Not to mention dyno operators who inflate/deflate numbers knowingly or not.

The goal is to make a change and make many runs to see if the change added performance. This is why a baseline is soo important. As long as a car shows consistent gains over a baseline, the change is good.

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Old May 6, 2009 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CORTVET
In my experience you can and will see different numbers from the same car on the same dyno, day to day. There are a lot of factors that contribute to this. Once different cars and different dynos at different locations come into play, then it becomes really diluted. Not to mention dyno operators who inflate/deflate numbers knowingly or not.

The goal is to make a change and make many runs to see if the change added performance. This is why a baseline is soo important. As long as a car shows consistent gains over a baseline, the change is good.

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Agree the dyno is a tool to measure gains. As I pointed out in another thread, the poster had like 320 on a mustang and 360 after headers and a CAI. He measured a 40 hp gain which is normal. He was happy with that but not the numbers. The numbers have to be taken with a grain of salt. 429 is a whole bag of salt.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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My 08 A6 Z51 did 380 SAE hp on a Dynojet stock.

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Old May 6, 2009 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BAIN
My 08 A6 Z51 did 380 SAE hp on a Dynojet stock.

Nice pull. The numbers we use as a guide, are just that. A guide. They usually go up to plus or minus 10 hp depending on the dyno and temp and so on. Good low end torque too.

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My 08 A6 Z51 did 380 SAE hp on a Dynojet stock.
So how much did your Z51 add to rhe SAE total HP? Maybe that would make it into Corvette Fever magazine.
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Old May 7, 2009 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by siffert
So how much did your Z51 add to rhe SAE total HP? Maybe that would make it into Corvette Fever magazine.
Your post (and mine too I hope) seems to have slowed things up a bit. I think the z51 adds the same as a ported trottlebody or a MAF sensor.
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Old May 7, 2009 | 11:38 PM
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To the OP, 370's to 380's.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 11:44 PM
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I put the Z51 in the description to not the 2.73 gear. Don't start the Corvette Fever stuff again
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I had 5 consecutive pulls with 5 minute cooldown times during Friday's session. The horsepower only varied by 5 rwhp and is was 90+ degrees. I call that consistent.
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Originally Posted by TX Vette
I had 5 consecutive pulls with 5 minute cooldown times during Friday's session. The horsepower only varied by 5 rwhp and is was 90+ degrees. I call that consistent.
Pretty much what Hal was saying. ls3 m6 381 rwhp. It can vary a few but not 30-50.
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Originally Posted by TX Vette
I had 5 consecutive pulls with 5 minute cooldown times during Friday's session. The horsepower only varied by 5 rwhp and is was 90+ degrees. I call that consistent.
Why did you make 5 pulls? As a tool to tune, you would hope for a HP increase, not consistancy. If you didn't make any tuning changes between pulls, what was the purpose?
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I street tuned my LS3 with the PLX WBO2 and the first pull was 400.81 rwhp. I tried a few timing changes and low end fueling to increase torque.
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Originally Posted by TX Vette
I street tuned my LS3 with the PLX WBO2 and the first pull was 400.81 rwhp. I tried a few timing changes and low end fueling to increase torque.
So did you get good low and mid-range improvements? Was the peak HP on the last pull?
I assume mods and a previous tune, what are they?

I had good mid-range improvements and picked up nearly 15 hp around 4500 and 9 at 6500. Gained some on torque and flattened the curve. I had a bad dip which is now gone.
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Originally Posted by tnz5106
I just got my '08 a6 pace car yesterday. I want to at least get a tune and maybe a stage I at MTI. They did a stage I on my '05 mn6 coupe and I really liked the improvements. My '05 had a rwhp baseline of 334 and 389 rwhp after the stage I. What can I expect with my ls3 a6?.......thanks
I had mine 09 C6 Z51 dynoed last night on a mustang dyno.

365/358 stock will be posting actual dyno slip of before and after. Adding Kooks header/cats and Vararam with tune today.

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Tuner stated that the mustang dyno runs about 8% below a dynojet.

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Originally Posted by trapp
I had mine 09 C6 Z51 dynoed last night on a mustang dyno.

365/358 stock will be posting actual dyno slip of before and after. Adding Kooks header/cats and Vararam with tune today.

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Tuner stated that the mustang dyno runs about 8% below a dynojet.
You are typically 15-16 hp lower than a dynojet for a m6. Your mods should pick up 35-40. I'm guessing 400-405 on the new mustang dyno pull. Good luck and let us know what you get.
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Originally Posted by BOB EAGAN
You are typically 15-16 hp lower than a dynojet for a m6. Your mods should pick up 35-40. I'm guessing 400-405 on the new mustang dyno pull. Good luck and let us know what you get.
Not to happy with results...only 20rwhp increase but a 40rwtq increase.....I not sure I will even feel my 2500.00 investment..I will see when I get it back tomarrow. I guess the tq curve is hugh starting at 2000rpm vs 3000rpm...I will post the dyno's when I pick up the car...


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Originally Posted by TxAggie
So recently I had mine in the shop for the headers and tune and I ended up with 394 rwhp and 393 lb/ft torque and honestly I felt that was a little low. My tuner said it was about right and mentioned the tune was not aggressive b/c he didn't want lots of wear on the engine. Only mods I have are the Vararam (which shows nothing on a dyno), AR headers, B&B Bullets, and the tune.

I looked on the forums and i see these people with 430 rwhp on the same mods and I feel like most of the seem way too high but then again I am no gear head / dyno tuner guru. I mean how aggressive of a tune do these folks have to get these #'s?
try only 375rwhp/391rwtq after header/cats/vararam/tune.
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