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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 01:28 AM
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When doing a cam swap which/any of the following parts should be purchased new and swapped in? I.e. which parts are a "must have"?

1 x GM Front Cover Gasket
1 x GM Front Cover seal
2 x GM Waterpump seals
1 x GM LS2 Timing Chain
1 x GM Oil pump pickup O-Ring
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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 01:57 AM
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The only "must have" is the oil pump pickup O-Ring. The timing chain kind of depends on how many miles are on the car. I know the service manual show to replace everything, but I have done it both ways several times, and never had any issues.
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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MrDrezzUp
When doing a cam swap which/any of the following parts should be purchased new and swapped in? I.e. which parts are a "must have"?

1 x GM Front Cover Gasket
1 x GM Front Cover seal
2 x GM Waterpump seals
1 x GM LS2 Timing Chain
1 x GM Oil pump pickup O-Ring
Depends on the miles on the car, I've never changed my oil o-ring though. Since all of those parts only total about $15 bucks, change them all. Most change the balancer bolt too. Put plenty of RTV on the bottom of the timing cover. Use loctite and torque everything to spec.
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 09:38 AM
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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I don't know what's actually necessary because I've never done it without new gaskets, I've always changed them all. What's the sense of putting it all back together and having a leak. Doesn't make sense for the cost of the parts.

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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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For $15 it sounds like cheap insurance!
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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I believe all those gaskets are a little bit more than $15 but even so it's worth it.

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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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Why the heck wouldn't you replace the gaskets.You have it all ripped apart, what could the cost of gaskets be, maybe 20bucks.Don't skimp on the small stuff, thats what will bight your butt later on.JMOP
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 10:13 PM
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Problem is when you don't replace them, get everything back together, and realize there is a leak. Makes you want to shoot yourself
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I have done 3 installs, only replaced the pulley bolt. All have been low mileage cars. Just finished up mine, G1 mti cam.
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Most of those gakets are cheap but its throwing money away. If there is one thing you shouldnt run its the stock single chain with a cam. Get the IWIS chain if its a single you insist on running. Lingenfelter carries it. My last install I held the two chains together and was shocked at how stretched and loose the LS2 stocker was. The IWIS chain is probably restoring 2 or 3 degrees retard back into the motor by eliminating the slack alone.

The bolt and front seal are mandatory.
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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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Regarding a new timing chain, is the oil pump removed to replace the timing chain?
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Yes, if you are doing a cam swap the oil pump comes off. You can also get that chain at Scoggins - best price around....and Guy is correct about the slack in the chain, that was mine he was talking about...wish I had the camera that day...and my engine had just under 10K miles.
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Originally Posted by Craigster05
Yes, if you are doing a cam swap the oil pump comes off. You can also get that chain at Scoggins - best price around....and Guy is correct about the slack in the chain, that was mine he was talking about...wish I had the camera that day...and my engine had just under 10K miles.
Slack in timing chain is = to cam retard. Crank turns first then cam followes. I definately will get a premimum CHAIN. I would take no chances on this one. Just need someone in the northeast that would install it properly and then I will need a tune.
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