Traction Control/ active handling
Burning Brakes
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Try to keep an open mind. Check out some of the horrobable crashes on U-tube. The human mind and reflects system could never respond as quickly as AH. It's just not humanly impossible. You have a much better chance of recovering your car and surviving with AH ON. Your 1/4 mile times won't differ unless the rear breaks lose. 1022 HP is serious power and can break lose very easily with out any warning. These guys are trying to help you in a strange way. There's too much to lose and so little to gain.
Drifting
Joined: Nov 2007
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From: Central Jersey, Union County N.J.
St. Jude Donor '10
Tc & Ah
I do keep an open mind. I don't fault students for using it, but I recommend against it because that's the worst way to learn how to drive a car fast. As far as data goes, I lapped 9 sec slower with the AH on. In the rain, it was over 18 sec. slower. It's one thing if you want to keep it on, but don't be telling people they are stupid for not using it.
Race Director
Joined: Mar 2005
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From: Southampton NJ
I do keep an open mind. I don't fault students for using it, but I recommend against it because that's the worst way to learn how to drive a car fast. As far as data goes, I lapped 9 sec slower with the AH on. In the rain, it was over 18 sec. slower. It's one thing if you want to keep it on, but don't be telling people they are stupid for not using it.
Racer
Joined: Oct 2006
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From: WA
I am so glad I lived through the 60's and early 70's muscle cars without all that electronic garbage showing me the way to enlightenment 
I turn off AH and TC before I leave the driveway.
Lately it, (active handling), has been angry at me, leaving DIC messages that it is re calibrating
I hope that is all it ever try's to do.
That computer's name isn't Hal by any chance is it??
I turn off AH and TC before I leave the driveway.
Lately it, (active handling), has been angry at me, leaving DIC messages that it is re calibrating
I hope that is all it ever try's to do. That computer's name isn't Hal by any chance is it??
Burning Brakes
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No need to guess, that is a fact. It is a good stability control system, but it is not for running hardcore. I have spun many times in safe and controlled environment, learned way more than to have the computer throw the brakes on for me.
Pro
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I am so glad I lived through the 60's and early 70's muscle cars without all that electronic garbage showing me the way to enlightenment
I turn off AH and TC before I leave the driveway.
Lately it, (active handling), has been angry at me, leaving DIC messages that it is re calibrating I hope that is all it ever try's to do.
That computer's name isn't Hal by any chance is it??
I turn off AH and TC before I leave the driveway.
Lately it, (active handling), has been angry at me, leaving DIC messages that it is re calibrating
I hope that is all it ever try's to do. That computer's name isn't Hal by any chance is it??
This debate is going nowhere. Lord only knows how guys in the 60s survived on bias ply tires with big blocks in vettes, and holy hell they didn't even have internet forums to show them the error of their ways. I choose to leave everything on when I'm just cruising on the street, but thats a just in case provision. If you want to turn it all off when on the track to learn your, and the car's limits, then go ahead. GM allows you to do so, but its not adviseable for all drivers in all situations. The computer nannys, while cumbersome, are a nice benefit to the majority of vette owners 
Drifting
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,338
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From: Central Jersey, Union County N.J.
St. Jude Donor '10
Tc & Ah
This debate is going nowhere. Lord only knows how guys in the 60s survived on bias ply tires with big blocks in vettes, and holy hell they didn't even have internet forums to show them the error of their ways. I choose to leave everything on when I'm just cruising on the street, but thats a just in case provision. If you want to turn it all off when on the track to learn your, and the car's limits, then go ahead. GM allows you to do so, but its not adviseable for all drivers in all situations. The computer nannys, while cumbersome, are a nice benefit to the majority of vette owners Unfortunately there were many that didnt' survive. The fatality rate has decreased dramatically due to moderned technology. Computers tc & ad, tire's, suspension, brakes, air bag's, drivers training, racing schools etc, have all made a significant contribution to this decline.
Last edited by chazc6; Aug 5, 2008 at 12:13 PM.
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Racer
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 286
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From: Toronto
Try to keep an open mind. Check out some of the horrobable crashes on U-tube. The human mind and reflects system could never respond as quickly as AH. It's not humanly possible. You have a much better chance of recovering your car and surviving with AH ON. Your 1/4 mile times won't differ unless the rear breaks lose. 1022 HP is serious power and can break lose very easily with out any warning. These guys are trying to help you in a strange way. There's too much to lose and so little to gain.
The car has since been toned down for street driving. No longer turbo. Now it is an LS7 making about 580 to the wheels naturally aspirated. When it was turbo I had Big Stuff 3 running it so there were no issues. Now we have the factory ecm running it and cannot shut off active handling no matter what we try. Any ideas? My button only shuts of tc no matter how many times pressed or for how long.
Race Director
Joined: Mar 2005
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From: Southampton NJ
The car has since been toned down for street driving. No longer turbo. Now it is an LS7 making about 580 to the wheels naturally aspirated. When it was turbo I had Big Stuff 3 running it so there were no issues. Now we have the factory ecm running it and cannot shut off active handling no matter what we try. Any ideas? My button only shuts of tc no matter how many times pressed or for how long.
Drifting
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,338
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From: Central Jersey, Union County N.J.
St. Jude Donor '10
Tc ah
I had the same issue. The factory computer will not allow you to turn AH off without the sensors or if your tire pressure goes below 24psi or above 38psi. I got the ideal from dennis and made a cannister with pvc and put the sensors inside with 30 psi. Now i can run drag radials with 18-22 psi and pump the front tires up to 44 psi, and also have the option to turn AH off.
Last edited by chazc6; Aug 9, 2008 at 06:24 PM.
