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Took the 08 Ls3 Vette to the dyno after the headers install

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Old 07-26-2008, 01:04 PM
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Ive never seen STD numbers lower than SAE but they can be close.

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"SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers), USA. Power is corrected to reference conditions of 29.23 InHg (99 kPa) of dry air and 77 F (25°C). This SAE standard requires a correction for friction torque.

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STD is Another power correction standard determined by the SAE. Power is corrected to reference conditions of 29.92 InHg (103.3 kPa) of dry air and 60 F (15.5°C). Because the reference conditions include higher pressure and cooler air than the SAE standard, these corrected power numbers will always be about 4 % higher than the SAE power numbers. Friction torque is handled in the same way as in the SAE standard."

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Old 07-26-2008, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bunk22
Not in my case, the STD numbers were higher than my SAE numbers, both cold and hot weather. I always have the dyno operator plug it in just to see. Here are the correction factors:

SAE j1349 correction:
29.23 in/hg.
77 degree temp
0 percent humidity

Standard correction (STD):
29.92 in/hg.
68 degree temp
0 percent humidity

Shouldn't the STD always be about 3% higher if this is what it corrects to?

Here is a great explanation of the SAE standards
http://www.land-and-sea.com/dyno-tec...horsepower.htm
Old 07-26-2008, 06:15 PM
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The older J607 standard considers that the engine was run on a 60°F day with 0% humidity and a barometric pressure of 29.92 in-Hg or the newer SAE J1349 standard of 77°F (25°C) day with 0% humidity and a barometric pressure of 29.234 in-Hg (99 KPa).
Yep both SAE conversions, J607 = "STD" ~4% higher than J1349 = "SAE"
Old 07-26-2008, 06:34 PM
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Hm. I always thought STD was applying no correction factor at all, but using the temp, pressure, humidity, etc that existed in the dyno shop. Learn something new every day
Old 07-27-2008, 04:32 PM
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Sounds like alot for an A6 car.

Mine has AR headers, K&N, ported TB and with a tune, I'm making 390 to the wheels and I think the tq is about 377.
This was not a Dynojet however.
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Originally Posted by HPAvette
The Car is an A6 and they we both on STD before and after mods on the same dyno. I am thinking of going next with porting my TB and my intake but I don't know if its worth it. or if I should just buy a Fast 92MM but I really don't want to spend the $$$
Definitely get them ported. You should see a solid 12-15hp gain and a nice torque curve too for around $350-400.
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^^^^ 12-15 @ the tire porting hte stock TB & intake?
Old 07-27-2008, 07:08 PM
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thats within 3hp of what my a6 put down with a killer bee, lg pros 1 3/4 and a frickin stage 1 cam???????
Old 07-27-2008, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by beefcake
thats within 3hp of what my a6 put down with a killer bee, lg pros 1 3/4 and a frickin stage 1 cam???????
I thought ls3 a6's dyno around 360-365. 388 seems high for an auto. Maybe he can post the dyno, that thing must really accelerate for just headers.
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Originally Posted by BOB EAGAN
I thought ls3 a6's dyno around 360-365. 388 seems high for an auto. Maybe he can post the dyno, that thing must really accelerate for just headers.
he said he dynoed 433 with just headers, i dynoed 436 with the headers and cam and cai
Old 07-27-2008, 08:46 PM
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nice
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The only #'s that count are time slips not dyno charts lets see what it does good luck
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Default Cant just use a 4% rule.

Originally Posted by PatKrager
Ive never seen STD numbers lower than SAE but they can be close.
Cant just use a 4% rule. On a 97 degree day the sae may be higher than the standard. The formula is fact. Its just that many rely on a %
conversion instead of just having the dyno print out in sae.
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Originally Posted by beefcake
he said he dynoed 433 with just headers, i dynoed 436 with the headers and cam and cai
Thats what I'm saying. I agree with you beefcake. I would have guessed 390-395 w/headers.

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Originally Posted by Bruno0825
The only #'s that count are time slips not dyno charts lets see what it does good luck
well hell, didn't he say he ran an 11.9 in an auto before the headers?
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Originally Posted by beefcake
well hell, didn't he say he ran an 11.9 in an auto before the headers?
I think he said it was with the headers but was going to wait to post the time slip because he's trying to improve on it with a retune. We''ll see.
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Originally Posted by beefcake
well hell, didn't he say he ran an 11.9 in an auto before the headers?
BTW 11.9 is pretty quick for not have a proper tune?????

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Old 07-27-2008, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB EAGAN
I thought ls3 a6's dyno around 360-365. 388 seems high for an auto. Maybe he can post the dyno, that thing must really accelerate for just headers.
Mine (08 A6 Z51) stock dynoed 380.9 hp 378.0 tq
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Originally Posted by BAIN
Mine (08 A6 Z51) stock dynoed 380.9 hp 378.0 tq
Even with that, 25 for headers is 405. Thats a long way from from 433. If you added headers and a Vararam I think you'd be very happy with 433. Yes? No?
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Originally Posted by BAIN
Mine (08 A6 Z51) stock dynoed 380.9 hp 378.0 tq
Just wondering, since you put your car on a dyno stock, I would think you would have gotten a tune. Is 380.9 Hp with or without a tune?


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