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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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Just noticed a nail in the tread of the right rear tire. My car is an '06 Base Coupe with run-flat tires. If I pull the nail and no air leaks out, I figure I'm home free, but I'm afraid I won't be so lucky. I've heard such a nail hole is not repairable (plug or patch). The owner manual suggests otherwise. What's your advice, please....
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 10:36 AM
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I had a screw in one of mine last week. I took it to America's Tire and they fixed it for free.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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I had a screw in one of mine last week. I took it to America's Tire and they fixed it for free.


Had the same unfortunate issue with my 600mi Z06 America's Tire took great care of the car and tire...
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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Same here. took it to local tire shop and they spent 1 hour dismounting and mounting tire on rim. they took their time and did a flawless job with no rim scratches.
I would pull the nail mark the spot and if you are lucky it wont leak. if it does call around for an experienced corvette tire repair shop. Not all tire places are.
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Originally Posted by philiphere
Just noticed a nail in the tread of the right rear tire. My car is an '06 Base Coupe with run-flat tires. If I pull the nail and no air leaks out, I figure I'm home free, but I'm afraid I won't be so lucky. I've heard such a nail hole is not repairable (plug or patch). The owner manual suggests otherwise. What's your advice, please....
Never ever put a plug in the wheel, never. Always have them fixed from the inside. In Europe plugs are illegal because they are deemed a safety hazard.

Have it checked by a reputable tire store, if you have the tire safety hazard program they will refund up to 50$ for a puncture.

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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 03:33 PM
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i dont understand your question. Do you want to fix a hole thats not leaking or is this a 'what happens if i get a leak in the future'. ive had maybe 6 punctures [nails ,screws and 1 bullet] in runflats from 2001/2007 plugged everyone and no issues. bullet didnt penatrate all the way through so no repair needed
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by patton
i dont understand your question. Do you want to fix a hole thats not leaking or is this a 'what happens if i get a leak in the future'. ive had maybe 6 punctures [nails ,screws and 1 bullet] in runflats from 2001/2007 plugged everyone and no issues. bullet didnt penatrate all the way through so no repair needed
I have plugged every flat tire in my life which are numerous to say the least and have never had a 'hazard' resulting from using a plug. I have 2 runs over 180mph with at least 3 plugs in my C6 and nothing happened. I'm not sure what problems are supposdedly going to happen from using a simple plug.

While I agree 100% that an inside patch is best, and the use of the ggodyear EMT repair is the way to go especially if its free, I cant take the chance that a tire will be removed from a rim without damage. 90% of the times I had tires removed and or replaced, the rim had some type of damage.

I'm with Patton here........plug it.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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If the nail didn't puncture and cause a loss of air pressure I'd say you're ok. If you put a plug in a run flat tire I'm pretty sure the speed rating goes out the window. Get it repaired via a tire dismount and inside patch if it needs repairing. A good tire shop can do the work without damaging your rim.
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I have also used many plugs without issues. But I also recently had a nail in my drivers side front. As slow leaker that I brouoght to the a Goodyear for repair as I have not had good luck with run flats at non Goodyear dealers. They dismounted the tire and patched the hole on the inside. $45+ with taxes but worth the price for a runflat with 6/32 left on the tread. Next tires will not be run flats with the only possible exception for a set of Firestone Wide Ovals. From the reviews very good wet weather traction, low noise, great price and 90% performance traction of the GY run flats.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Cro
Never ever put a plug in the wheel, never. Always have them fixed from the inside. In Europe plugs are illegal because they are deemed a safety hazard.

Have it checked by a reputable tire store, if you have the tire safety hazard program they will refund up to 50$ for a puncture.

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I agree with Spin...plugs are fine, and I've done them quite a few times too; even have buddies that do them on their motorcycles. No problems, and they do plenty of 100+ mph runs pluggified.
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Originally Posted by jam313
I agree with Spin...plugs are fine, and I've done them quite a few times too; even have buddies that do them on their motorcycles. No problems, and they do plenty of 100+ mph runs pluggified.

I'm plugged. Five minutes in my garage and no drama of having the shop crack my rockers or damage my rim. It's a runflat! Although I have never heard of it happening, what if the plug did come out - it's a runflat. No different from driving down the road and hitting some debris and losing total pressure. If I was going to track my car regularly at high speeds I most probably would get it professional repaired though.
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Who said plugs arent safe?, plug many tires including my run flats on my C5, C6. never an issue, couple of 170 MPH runs on my C6 with rear plug. I even have a plug kit on my car!
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by philiphere
Just noticed a nail in the tread of the right rear tire. My car is an '06 Base Coupe with run-flat tires. If I pull the nail and no air leaks out, I figure I'm home free, but I'm afraid I won't be so lucky. I've heard such a nail hole is not repairable (plug or patch). The owner manual suggests otherwise. What's your advice, please....
Sometimes tires with punctures will not be repaired by tire shops if the punctures are more towards the edge of the tire. I have had a few tire shops in Austin (i.e., Discount Tire, NTB, and one private shop) refuse to repair a tire-either using a patch, plug, or patch-plug- because the hole/nair/screw was too close to the edge of the tire, within say 1 or 2 inches. The rational these shops used is that the edge of the tire flexes and moves too much for any type of repair to hold. In one case, one shop did a repair (against their better judgment but warning me it may not hold) and it did not. The tire was flat again the next day.

So, whether or not your tire will be repaired by a tire shop may depend on the location of the puncture. If they refuse to repair it, they may use the reasons stated above. Now, the issue of who will pay for the repair will depend on the age of the tire, tread wear, and if there is still a warranty in place. You may want to consult the paperwork that came with the car to make this determination. Hope this helps.
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jam313
I agree with Spin...plugs are fine, and I've done them quite a few times too; even have buddies that do them on their motorcycles. No problems, and they do plenty of 100+ mph runs pluggified.
Maybe here, the dealer that sold me the vette in NJ clearly told me: No outside plugs on the vette, ever.

All punctures are fixed from the inside, I didn't even know that you could plug them from the outside, until I came to the US. It was my dad who told me to never accept me a plug to fix a puncture.

I have done some research and apparently, in France, you can buy a plug kit for motorbikes to temporarily fix a tire, but all tire shops fix punctures from the inside. A French motorbike community states that shops that fix punctures with outside plugs should be avoided like the plague.

So I was wrong on one thing, it appears that it isn't illegal as I previously stated, sorry about that invalid statement.

As for the motorcycle plug fixing:

http://www.fireblades.org/forums/gen...tire-plug.html

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I agree with Spin...plugs are fine, and I've done them quite a few times too; even have buddies that do them on their motorcycles. No problems, and they do plenty of 100+ mph runs pluggified.
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The tire MUST be repaired with the approved plug/patch at a Goodyear repair store. It is a plug and a patch combined in one. The plug part is pulled through the hole while the patch on the backside of the plug seals the inside of the tire. The inside surface of the tire is prepared and adhesive used. The centrifugal forces a tire undergoes could throw out a plug only repair. Think of it as a piece of foreign material in the tire. And yes, forget about your speed rating with a plug only repair. Dont forget, moisture getting into the tire through a rope/plug will destroy the metallic belts, also resulting in damage.
As far as repairs made near the shoulder...they can only be made through the crown area of the tire (where there is support and integrity from the belts/overlay, that is way anything outside the tread of the tire is not repairable. Tire growth and flex is to prevelant in that area. Call the 1-800 numberin the warranty info that came with your Vette for the nearest service location. Track days and high speed runs on a plugged tire is dangerous and dangerous to those around you, think of that at least. Plugs were desgined as temporary repairs, to get you to a repair shop. Same goes for "temporary spares".
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Originally Posted by philiphere
Just noticed a nail in the tread of the right rear tire. My car is an '06 Base Coupe with run-flat tires. If I pull the nail and no air leaks out, I figure I'm home free, but I'm afraid I won't be so lucky. I've heard such a nail hole is not repairable (plug or patch). The owner manual suggests otherwise. What's your advice, please....
Was at a car show 3 months ago picked up a nail in tire.Instead of the 50 bucks the tire joint wanted around the corner, went to autozone and plugged it myself for 10 bucks. And i have had the car to very high speeds, no problem.
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Had a nail in mine 3 days ago... took it to my local Goodyear dealer, and they patched it, no problem. Good as new.
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Plugged my nail hole. Didn't want to risk scratching the stock comp gray rim.
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