You might want to consider replacing that battery. 
Need help! Car won't start!
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Need help! Car won't start!
It all started when my shifter became difficult to put into reverse. I had to jiggle the shifter a lil bit to get it pass the gate. It was like the car was locking it out thinking I was moving when I wasn't. Also now at this point it isn't going into reverse at all!! The battery is now unplugged because of the shifter to R thing on the '05s. So my brillant idea was to undo the battery and hope it resets. That didn't work too well.
Once I get the battery on the service column lock message comes on
so I find the fuse in the passenger foot well and reset it and the message goes away but the car still doesn't start.
I will put the clutch in and push the button then let go of the button and the gauges will go blank til I pull the clutch back out...
The car won't even try to crank. Not sure what it would do at this point but I tried putting the fob in that slit in the glove box and nothing changed.
Is there a computer lock on it after you undo the battery or something (hopefully).
Thanks in advance,
David
Once I get the battery on the service column lock message comes on
so I find the fuse in the passenger foot well and reset it and the message goes away but the car still doesn't start.I will put the clutch in and push the button then let go of the button and the gauges will go blank til I pull the clutch back out...
The car won't even try to crank. Not sure what it would do at this point but I tried putting the fob in that slit in the glove box and nothing changed.
Is there a computer lock on it after you undo the battery or something (hopefully).
Thanks in advance,
David
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Drifting
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From: Naples FL
I just tried searching but all I came up with was DBS which I don't think is possible because the car was running then I unhooked the battery and hooked it back up and now it isn't starting...
I already checked a bunch of fuses but I could double check. Which ones should I check and where are they? Starter relay, ...
I will check the voltage on the battery just to be sure though.
I already checked a bunch of fuses but I could double check. Which ones should I check and where are they? Starter relay, ...
I will check the voltage on the battery just to be sure though.
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no start
[ A low state of charge battery will mess with the computer]
try onstar for help reset computer????????
something to do with from outside of car/use lock/
unlock on your Fob?????????????????
I had nothing,replaced the battery,still nothing~
no gauges or map light>>>>>>
try onstar for help reset computer????????
something to do with from outside of car/use lock/
unlock on your Fob?????????????????
I had nothing,replaced the battery,still nothing~
no gauges or map light>>>>>>
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It all started when my shifter became difficult to put into reverse. I had to jiggle the shifter a lil bit to get it pass the gate. It was like the car was locking it out thinking I was moving when I wasn't. Also now at this point it isn't going into reverse at all!! The battery is now unplugged because of the shifter to R thing on the '05s. So my brillant idea was to undo the battery and hope it resets. That didn't work too well.
Once I get the battery on the service column lock message comes on so I find the fuse in the passenger foot well and reset it and the message goes away but the car still doesn't start.
I will put the clutch in and push the button then let go of the button and the gauges will go blank til I pull the clutch back out...
The car won't even try to crank. Not sure what it would do at this point but I tried putting the fob in that slit in the glove box and nothing changed.
Is there a computer lock on it after you undo the battery or something (hopefully).
Thanks in advance,
David
05 MN6 Z51 C6
396 rwhp / 394 tq
-Vararam
-Smooth Intake Couplers
-Ported TB
-Ported 92mm FAST
-160 Stat.
-Stainless Works LT Headers w/ Offroad x-pipe
-Flowmaster Catback
-Tuned by: Mike Norris
-AVIC-D3 w/ Sirius & iPod
-LED Interior
-EE Catch Can
Once I get the battery on the service column lock message comes on
so I find the fuse in the passenger foot well and reset it and the message goes away but the car still doesn't start.I will put the clutch in and push the button then let go of the button and the gauges will go blank til I pull the clutch back out...
The car won't even try to crank. Not sure what it would do at this point but I tried putting the fob in that slit in the glove box and nothing changed.
Is there a computer lock on it after you undo the battery or something (hopefully).
Thanks in advance,
David
05 MN6 Z51 C6
396 rwhp / 394 tq
-Vararam
-Smooth Intake Couplers
-Ported TB
-Ported 92mm FAST
-160 Stat.
-Stainless Works LT Headers w/ Offroad x-pipe
-Flowmaster Catback
-Tuned by: Mike Norris
-AVIC-D3 w/ Sirius & iPod
-LED Interior
-EE Catch Can
Let us know how you come out, and good luck.
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The battery might be old but I checked the voltage and were looking at about 12.5v so I think its good.
Is there a security feature on the vettes that disables it if you remove the battery?
Fuses?
I agree with all my mods it could be anything but it has had all these mods for probably 3-4 months with zero issues and road trips to miami and tampa and back with no issues. I think it all started when I unhooked the battery. There must be some way to "reset" the car...
Is there a security feature on the vettes that disables it if you remove the battery?
Fuses?
I agree with all my mods it could be anything but it has had all these mods for probably 3-4 months with zero issues and road trips to miami and tampa and back with no issues. I think it all started when I unhooked the battery. There must be some way to "reset" the car...
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12.5 volts on a standing battery is a good start. The true test is to put a volt meter across the battery and see what the voltage is when you try to start it. It should stay above approximately 9.5 volts. The service column lock is the first message that usually comes up with a low battery.
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The battery might be old but I checked the voltage and were looking at about 12.5v so I think its good.
Is there a security feature on the vettes that disables it if you remove the battery?
Fuses?
I agree with all my mods it could be anything but it has had all these mods for probably 3-4 months with zero issues and road trips to miami and tampa and back with no issues. I think it all started when I unhooked the battery. There must be some way to "reset" the car...
Is there a security feature on the vettes that disables it if you remove the battery?
Fuses?
I agree with all my mods it could be anything but it has had all these mods for probably 3-4 months with zero issues and road trips to miami and tampa and back with no issues. I think it all started when I unhooked the battery. There must be some way to "reset" the car...
So the starter is not even turning? Heat from headers has been known to kill a starter too. Just a thought.
Just checking everything here, but are you sure that the clutch pedal is fully depressed when you go to start it?
Any way to put the stock tune back into it??? If the battery is good, thats where I would look next.
If the battery is no good, then obviously thats the next move.
AC Delco batteries are crap, so if yours is 4 years old, I'd go ahead and replace it anyway. I'm betting that will cure your problem. And if not, you still needed a battery.
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Nope starter isn't even trying to crank. I'm gonna go check the clutch position sensor now.
I did get the Service Column Lock message but I pulled that fuse and reset it and it hasn't come up yet. I guess its time for a new battery regardless so I'm gonna go do that and I'll do the fob batt. just incase.
The tune is a custom tune so I don't think I can remove it.
-David
I did get the Service Column Lock message but I pulled that fuse and reset it and it hasn't come up yet. I guess its time for a new battery regardless so I'm gonna go do that and I'll do the fob batt. just incase.
The tune is a custom tune so I don't think I can remove it.
-David
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I just got back from Advanced Auto Parts and they said the battery was good. It might need to be replaced soon but that isn't the issue right now... I guess I'm gonna pull and check every fuse and check the starter. (Advanced checks those too)
-David
-David
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Update: I opened the fuse box inside the engine compartment and found the crank relay number 43. I then bypassed this relay and the starter did start to crank.
Therefore the starter can't be bad.
I then determined which prongs of the relay shoud receive voltage when you push the clutch in and hit the starter button and watched the voltmeter read at 12v.
Therefore the clutch position sensor is working and it is trying to start so either that relay is bad or there is something besides that going on.
What I've established so far:
Battery: good
Starter: good
Clutch sensor: good
What else could there be?
Therefore the starter can't be bad.
I then determined which prongs of the relay shoud receive voltage when you push the clutch in and hit the starter button and watched the voltmeter read at 12v.
Therefore the clutch position sensor is working and it is trying to start so either that relay is bad or there is something besides that going on.
What I've established so far:
Battery: good
Starter: good
Clutch sensor: good
What else could there be?
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Update: I opened the fuse box inside the engine compartment and found the crank relay number 43. I then bypassed this relay and the starter did start to crank.
Therefore the starter can't be bad.
I then determined which prongs of the relay shoud receive voltage when you push the clutch in and hit the starter button and watched the voltmeter read at 12v.
Therefore the clutch position sensor is working and it is trying to start so either that relay is bad or there is something besides that going on.
What I've established so far:
Battery: good
Starter: good
Clutch sensor: good
What else could there be?
Therefore the starter can't be bad.
I then determined which prongs of the relay shoud receive voltage when you push the clutch in and hit the starter button and watched the voltmeter read at 12v.
Therefore the clutch position sensor is working and it is trying to start so either that relay is bad or there is something besides that going on.
What I've established so far:
Battery: good
Starter: good
Clutch sensor: good
What else could there be?
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Yah I just found 'em from Gene for $230. Very strange indeed. All I did was undo the battery and hook it back up but I guess what killed it was the fact the technically the car wasn't off cause I couldn't get it into R so I guess being that it was still on when I undid the battery was what might have done it in..?
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Well the Verdict is in who wants to guess? Winner gets Joe_G's dollar that he owes me jk lol.
Answer -> Open circuit between the starter relay and the starter.
So the dealer repaired and $100 later I was out the door.
Their tranny tech (that sounds messed up) won't be in till Tuesday so no one really looked at it but it is going into reverse but it is REALLY hard to get it over to the point where you push it forward. I'm not exactly a weak person and it takes alot of force to push it over.
So for now it is going into R but its pretty hard so I guess it is time for the MGW lol.
Any ideas why it would be so difficult to push it to the right to the point where I can push it forward?
-David
Answer -> Open circuit between the starter relay and the starter.
So the dealer repaired and $100 later I was out the door.
Their tranny tech (that sounds messed up) won't be in till Tuesday so no one really looked at it but it is going into reverse but it is REALLY hard to get it over to the point where you push it forward. I'm not exactly a weak person and it takes alot of force to push it over.
So for now it is going into R but its pretty hard so I guess it is time for the MGW lol.
Any ideas why it would be so difficult to push it to the right to the point where I can push it forward?
-David
