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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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I swapped the two front tires on my car.
Had slight feathering on the outer fronts.

Car was aligned front and rear (was toed-in)

I need to program the sensors for the EMT's

RF is now LF & LF is now RF

There is a TPM Sensor Activation Tool(J-46079)
Can I get this 'tool'? or can they be re-programmed with-out this tool?

If tool is needed where can I get it and how much?

Or dealer?

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Originally Posted by Futile
I swapped the two front tires on my car.
Had slight feathering on the outer fronts.

Car was aligned front and rear (was toed-in)

I need to program the sensors for the EMT's

RF is now LF & LF is now RF

There is a TPM Sensor Activation Tool(J-46079)
Can I get this 'tool'? or can they be re-programmed with-out this tool?

If tool is needed where can I get it and how much?

Or dealer?


Thanks
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You need the tool or to go to a dealer. Who changed the tires for you? They might have the tool. If it was me I would make them swap the tires so the sensors are on the correct side. This is something the tire shops are well aware of and there is no excuse to get it wrong. They should fix it on their nickel.
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I did not want to risk damage to the wheels on the swap, so I had them just swap the wheels around.

according to the instructions I have, the sensors just need to be re-programmed.

I thought this was the better solution rather than risking damages to the wheels.

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Your servicing GM dealer will probably do it for free in 5 mins.
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If your dealer won't do it free or cheap then I wouldn't worry about the location of the sensors. If you get a low tire warning showing on the left front you know it is on the right front and vice-versa.
If the computer somehow knows the sensors have been moved and gives an error message then forget about what I just said.

I'm interested to know why the tires were moved. Aren't the outside feathered edges still on the outside of the tires, just going the opposite direction?
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by saplumr
Your servicing GM dealer will probably do it for free in 5 mins.
The servicing GM dealer I used to go to charged me 90$ for that 5 minute service.

Stealership is warranted in some cases.

You can get a simple tool for a couple of hundred dollars that does the trick. Any pep boys/autozone/walmart will do it for you; it takes a minute.

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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Futile
I did not want to risk damge to the wheels on the swap, so I had them just swap the wheels around.

according to th instructions I have, the sensors just need to be re-programmed.

I thought this was the better solution rather than risking damages to the wheels.

Aren't the tires directional?
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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The servicing GM dealer I used to go to charged me 90$ for that 5 minute service.

Stealership is warranted in some cases.

You can get a simple tool for a couple of hundred dollars that does the trick. Any pep boys/autozone/walmart will do it for you; it takes a minute.

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My dealer has never charged me for this.
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Originally Posted by Vetteinplano
Aren't the tires directional?
Yes they are, that is why I thought he had some new ones put on and the tire shop swapped the rims.
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Originally Posted by Vetteinplano
Aren't the tires directional?
Depends on which tires he has, not all are directional.
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Thanks for some input guys!

Originally Posted by corvette dave
If your dealer won't do it free or cheap then I wouldn't worry about the location of the sensors. If you get a low tire warning showing on the left front you know it is on the right front and vice-versa.
If the computer somehow knows the sensors have been moved and gives an error message then forget about what I just said.

I'm interested to know why the tires were moved. Aren't the outside feathered edges still on the outside of the tires, just going the opposite direction?


This is one way. The feathering is very slight.

Yes the feathering is still there, but as the tire wears it will reverse the feathering. (and elimate it over time)

No codes or warnings came up on the drive home!

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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Vetteinplano
Aren't the tires directional?
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Yes they are, that is why I thought he had some new ones put on and the tire shop swapped the rims.
Incorrect!
Only if I had the base tires.

My car has the Z51 susp. and handling pkg. which has Supercar tires.

Supercar tires are Asymetrical Only
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discount tire also can relearn them for you. they did mine for free here in Indiana!
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Originally Posted by Futile
Incorrect!
Only if I had the base tires.

My car has the Z51 susp. and handling pkg. which has Supercar tires.

Supercar tires are Asymetrical Only
I've done this before and simply left myself a mental note that R=L, and never had any problem. Worse that can happen is you add air to the wrong tire until you realize and remember. If you have a 'flat', you'll remember real quick.
Now if you're just too OCD....
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Originally Posted by saplumr
My dealer has never charged me for this.
Hi there,

Well regretfully I have never been able to build a constructive win-win relationship with my local Dealer.

I have not had much luck with other GM dealers in the vicinity and so have given up on the GM dealers locally and take care of the vette myself.

My wife's Toyota sienna stills see the Toyota dealership regularly.

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Isn't there a method where with the key in, turned on but engine off, start w RF, release some air until on honk is heard, then to RR, then LR, then LF? I believe this is the method, but I would have to review the manual. Then you start anywhere and set tire pressure as desired.
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Your servicing GM dealer will probably do it for free in 5 mins.
Mine did all four for gratis
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Isn't there a method where with the key in, turned on but engine off, start w RF, release some air until on honk is heard, then to RR, then LR, then LF? I believe this is the method, but I would have to review the manual. Then you start anywhere and set tire pressure as desired.
You put the car in "learn" mode by switching to ACC and holding down the lock and unlock buttons on the fob until the horn honks. The car is now waiting to hear from the left-front tire pressure sensor. You activate that sensor, and the car will honk to confirm. Then RF, RR, and finally LR, after which the car will honk twice. Done.

The prescribed method for "activating" the sensor is with a TPMS tool. You place the tool against the tire at the valve stem and press the button.

I thought it might be possible to get away without the tool by deflating the tire instead (like some other cars), so it would report in with an emergency low-pressure signal, but I couldn't get it to work. There must be something different about the signal transmitted when you activate the sensor using the tool.
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The sensors on some GM vehicles will trigger and send their data to the TPMS computer in the car by changing pressure in the tire. NOT THE C6!!

On the C6, you've got to use a tool that transmits a radio frequency to trigger the sensor.

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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 08:52 AM
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The sensors on some GM vehicles will trigger and send their data to the TPMS computer in the car by changing pressure in the tire. NOT THE C6!!

On the C6, you've got to use a tool that transmits a radio frequency to trigger the sensor.

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That kinda sucks...no, that really sucks. Vettes have always had the good stuff first. My '08 2500 truck will let you program the tire positions yourself. I don't want to take my vette to the dealership. Guess, when the time comes, I'll troll around 'till I find someone other than the dealership with the right tool.
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