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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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I'm unhappy with having automatic control of my lighting (parking/headlights/DRL's). I want to disable the auto function. I am guessing that if control module thought the sensor was always in bright light then the auto position would always leave the lights off. Then I could select the parking/headlights manually, which is what I want. To do this I need to understand a little about the sensor wiring.

Does anyone have the auto/parking/headlight schematic with the sensor they could post or send me?

Better yet, has this been done? I don't mind plagiarizing with permission.
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Originally Posted by 99c54me
I'm unhappy with having automatic control of my lighting (parking/headlights/DRL's). I want to disable the auto function. I am guessing that if control module thought the sensor was always in bright light then the auto position would always leave the lights off. Then I could select the parking/headlights manually, which is what I want. To do this I need to understand a little about the sensor wiring.

Does anyone have the auto/parking/headlight schematic with the sensor they could post or send me?

Better yet, has this been done? I don't mind plagiarizing with permission.
I think a better way to override the auto function is to just turn it off.

I do that every time I start the car. The outer ring on the left stalk can be turned. If you turn it toward you (the top toward you) you'll feel a spring-loaded pressure that will return it to the normal position.

However, when you do twist it into that spring-loaded area and release it, it will turn off your DRLs and disable the auto feature. If it gets dark outside or you go through a tunnel you'll get a DIC message "Headlights Suggested". You can turn the ring into the spring-loaded area again and it will put the lights back into the auto mode and if it's dark the headlights will turn on.

The problem is that you have to do it every time you start the car because the default is the auto mode.

I just don't think there is any good way to defeat the auto mode other than turning it off with the ring on the stalk every time you start the car.

Bob
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 10:02 PM
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I'm tired of having to turn the stalk switch every time I start the car in my garage.

I'm tired of seeing the DIC message and then having to clear that.

I simply want the car to think the sun in shining bright and no need for the lights to automatically come on for me.

If I remove the light sensor and generate a bright sun light condition then the car will let me be in control and stop bothering me.

I am pretty sure the light sensor is little more than a photon to voltage converter (really just a diode). So if I disconnect the sensor and apply a voltage in place of the sensor then the car should register that as day light, no need for headlights.

I would like a schematic of this circuit before I start. If someone cold post it that would help me.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 08:51 AM
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Well, before you launch an extensive research, here is my conclusion.

There is no quick and dirty method. You can wire in a resistor into the twilight sensor in order to fool the BCM and it does turn off the auto headlight. *BUT*, the same sensor is also used by the BCM to determine the brightness of the gauge cluster and dashboard buttons illumination.

With the resistor wired in and in the dark, you will turn the headlights on manually. However, in doing so, the gauge cluster and buttons illumination is not reduced. This will put a strain on your eyes as the gauge cluster is at full blast and none of the buttons are illuminated.

The easy way is to get into the BCM and turn this feature off. I have no experience nor knowledge how to do this.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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Or you can turn it to the parking lights which kills the auto headlight function, but enables parking lights.

I leave mine in this setting and when the car is turned off the lights go off even with the switch still set to parking lilghts.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by LEAVINU
I leave mine in this setting and when the car is turned off the lights go off even with the switch still set to parking lilghts.
hummm...so you can just leave it in the park light postion and thy will go out when I turn the car off?

cool, thanks...will have to try this.

....otherwise....maybe the easy way would be to remove the spring from the switch so it doesn't go to AUTO.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bagwell
hummm...so you can just leave it in the park light postion and thy will go out when I turn the car off?

cool, thanks...will have to try this.

....otherwise....maybe the easy way would be to remove the spring from the switch so it doesn't go to AUTO.
No, the switch then triggers the DIC with a message that then needs to be cleared with the reset button.

This will be simple to do, just need the schematic.

Anyone have the schematic? Please send if you do.
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hummm...so you can just leave it in the park light postion and thy will go out when I turn the car off?
Yep

Been doing this forever with no problems.
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Originally Posted by bagwell
hummm...so you can just leave it in the park light postion and thy will go out when I turn the car off?
Yep, I did this for a couple of years, until I followed the advice of another member here on CF and put a 90 watt spotlight on the ceiling of the garage, aimed at the sensor, and wired into the bulb on the garage door opener. Thus the spotlight is only on when the garage door opener bulb is automatically on, and then goes off automatically. This convinces the sensor it is seeing sunlight, and the lights start up in the DRL mode, not the headlight mode. Works like a charm every time.
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Originally Posted by The Clevite Kid
Yep, I did this for a couple of years, until I followed the advice of another member here on CF and put a 90 watt spotlight on the ceiling of the garage, aimed at the sensor, and wired into the bulb on the garage door opener. Thus the spotlight is only on when the garage door opener bulb is automatically on, and then goes off automatically. This convinces the sensor it is seeing sunlight, and the lights start up in the DRL mode, not the headlight mode. Works like a charm every time.
LOL I cannot believe you Mod'd your Garage door opener.
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Originally Posted by Daytona Bob
LOL I cannot believe you Mod'd your Garage door opener.
Yup, wired that sucker to 480V 3-phase, and now it whips the door open in 0.6 seconds


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