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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 07:42 PM
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Has anyone installed a, new, LS3 Crate Motor into a 05-6-7, C6 ?? - I see that they are advertised for, around, $6K. - If you have, what are the concerns, if any ? -- --
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if you do it would go for the hot cam motor 480 hp. 500$ more
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Its still a cast piston motor and you would be better served getting a 416 stroker and re-using the stock 243 heads. It will still make near 500/500 to the wheels and you save 1000 bucks. Texas speed and Scoggins both have 4700 dollar shortblocks and you add a cam to that and you're done. A small 230 cam will have a 700rpm idle and more power than the LS3. You then have a motor that has upgrade potential. Even that shortblock and a set of L92 heads/intake manifold will be about the same 6k price as the LS3 crate motor and get you far better performance and reliability.

Forget about warraties if you swap it out in an LS2 car. They will never warranty it as original equipment.

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Its still a cast piston motor and you would be better served getting a 416 stroker and re-using the stock 243 heads. It will still make near 500/500 to the wheels and you save 1000 bucks. Texas speed and Scoggins both have 4700 dollar shortblocks and you add a cam to that and you're done. A small 230 cam will have a 700rpm idle and more power than the LS3. You then have a motor that has upgrade potential. Even that shortblock and a set of L92 heads/intake manifold will be about the same 6k price as the LS3 crate motor and get you far better performance and reliability.

Forget about warraties if you swap it out in an LS2 car. They will never warranty it as original equipment.
- Thanks - As usual, I'm wanting more, "streetable", horsepower. I will probably wait and see, what the 2010 models offer. - Probably just a dream. -- -- --
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You might start with a set of headers , 160 thermostat, a cold air intake, and a tune on your LS2. You will be surprised at how well it will respond.
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Originally Posted by SpinMonster
Its still a cast piston motor and you would be better served getting a 416 stroker and re-using the stock 243 heads. It will still make near 500/500 to the wheels and you save 1000 bucks. Texas speed and Scoggins both have 4700 dollar shortblocks and you add a cam to that and you're done. A small 230 cam will have a 700rpm idle and more power than the LS3. You then have a motor that has upgrade potential. Even that shortblock and a set of L92 heads/intake manifold will be about the same 6k price as the LS3 crate motor and get you far better performance and reliability.

Forget about warraties if you swap it out in an LS2 car. They will never warranty it as original equipment.
Outstanding advice (as usual!).
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The LS3 480 was one of my options along with a stroker and FI. My car is in the shop now getting a A&A Vortech.
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Get a stroker motor with forged internals. You'll be glad you did since the LS3 is still using cast materials and hypereutectic pistons. Re-use the heads with some good roller rockers and a decent cam and the stroker will outlast any crate engine.
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Originally Posted by SpinMonster
Its still a cast piston motor and you would be better served getting a 416 stroker and re-using the stock 243 heads. It will still make near 500/500 to the wheels and you save 1000 bucks. Texas speed and Scoggins both have 4700 dollar shortblocks and you add a cam to that and you're done. A small 230 cam will have a 700rpm idle and more power than the LS3. You then have a motor that has upgrade potential. Even that shortblock and a set of L92 heads/intake manifold will be about the same 6k price as the LS3 crate motor and get you far better performance and reliability.

Forget about warraties if you swap it out in an LS2 car. They will never warranty it as original equipment.

You're talkin about this right?
http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=686


If I wanted to swap that into my 05, is it a straight swap? Can I use my existing fuel system, ignition and other parts? Same heads, correct?
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Originally Posted by BartonekDragRacing
You're talkin about this right?
http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=686


If I wanted to swap that into my 05, is it a straight swap? Can I use my existing fuel system, ignition and other parts? Same heads, correct?
Yes but be sure the reluctor wheel matches the year of the car it is going into....the 2005 uses a 24x RW.
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- Thanks - As usual, I'm wanting more, "streetable", horsepower. I will probably wait and see, what the 2010 models offer. - Probably just a dream. -- -- --
I'm not sure what makes you say a stroker isnt streetable when it is the cam choice that makes it streetable or not. A 416 with a 224 cam for example, will be indistinguishable from stock as far as streetability with a 650rpm idle and zero drivability issues. It will make 480rwhp/480rwtq (more than a LS3 stock long block) and will have no lope. I doubt you would be able to tell the motor isnt stock until the power tells you its stronger.

Even a cam 10 degrees bigger will have great street manners and will be in the 540rwhp range or 120-140rwhp over a stock LS3.

A 230XFI cam will make 510rwhp with L92 heads.
A 236 cam made 540rwhp with L92 heads.

Your concerns of driveability are unfounded.

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I'm not sure what makes you say a stroker isnt streetable --------------------
Your concerns of driveability are unfounded.
-- I didn't say that. Perhaps it sounded that way. I'm very aware of "strokers" with various cams etc. I've had a couple, in Mopars. -- --
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Originally Posted by SpinMonster
I'm not sure what makes you say a stroker isnt streetable.
Originally Posted by mcwire
-- I didn't say that. Perhaps it sounded that way. I'm very aware of "strokers" with various cams etc. I've had a couple, in Mopars. -- --
You did say streetable.

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- Thanks - As usual, I'm wanting more, "streetable", horsepower.
There is nothing a stock LS3 has as an advantage. Just tring to help.
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Originally Posted by SpinMonster
You did say streetable.


There is nothing a stock LS3 has as an advantage. Just tring to help.
-- Yes, I did say "streetable", however I am aware that "strokers" can be "streetable". - Been there, done that.---- Thanks, for the input, I appreciate that. - No Problem, here. - Happy New Year. -- --
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