C6 Tech/Performance LS2, LS3, LS7, LS9 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Header power numbers

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 29, 2008 | 09:40 PM
  #1  
Just4me's Avatar
Just4me
Thread Starter
5th Gear
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
From: Toms River NJ
Default Header power numbers

I've been seeing confusing data on headers on the C6. My car is an 09 Auto-LS3 with 2.73 rear...AND NO DRAG RACING IN IT'S FUTURE!! While I don't plan on racing it, I was thinking of doing headers and here in lies my confusion. Some say the power from long tubes will be 25-30, but is that rwhp or flywheel? Others say that the power is 18 hp (again not known if it's rwhp or not) and this is from the SLP website. Is the vast difference just because one brand is so much better? Also, what tube size would be best for the most power, 1 7/8" or 1 3/4", both will have to go thru catalytic converters and NPP exhaust.
Reply
Old Dec 29, 2008 | 09:43 PM
  #2  
LS2-Zomb!e's Avatar
LS2-Zomb!e
Safety Car
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,332
Likes: 0
From: Kuwait
Default

20-30 RWHP - With Tune 25-35 RWHP
Estimated of course!
Reply
Old Dec 29, 2008 | 09:46 PM
  #3  
MLCZ51's Avatar
MLCZ51
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,021
Likes: 0
From: HOUSTON TEXAS
Default i agree

Originally Posted by LS2-Zomb!e
20-30 RWHP - With Tune 25-35 RWHP
Estimated of course!
40 maybe with a good tune....
Reply
Old Dec 29, 2008 | 09:49 PM
  #4  
Just4me's Avatar
Just4me
Thread Starter
5th Gear
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
From: Toms River NJ
Default

Originally Posted by MLCZ51
40 maybe with a good tune....
Are these numbers for an LS2 or LS3?
Reply
Old Dec 29, 2008 | 10:06 PM
  #5  
LS2-Zomb!e's Avatar
LS2-Zomb!e
Safety Car
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,332
Likes: 0
From: Kuwait
Default

All LSX
Reply
Old Dec 29, 2008 | 10:11 PM
  #6  
BOB EAGAN's Avatar
BOB EAGAN
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 905
Likes: 0
From: BURTON MI
Default

Originally Posted by Just4me
Are these numbers for an LS2 or LS3?
Numbers are about the same for 2's or 3's. You can expect about 25 rwhp for the headers and 5-10 for a basic tune. Numbers are fairly close for all the major brands. If you do headers, you may also want to consider a Cold Air Intake at the same time. With better exaust flow, more intake will help with about 10 more hp for $300 and you can get them both tuned at the same time. This combo should give you about 40 rwhp and about the same rwtq.
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2008 | 12:51 AM
  #7  
LS2-Zomb!e's Avatar
LS2-Zomb!e
Safety Car
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,332
Likes: 0
From: Kuwait
Default

Reply
Old Dec 30, 2008 | 01:16 AM
  #8  
bosco 08's Avatar
bosco 08
Drifting
15 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
Liked
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,709
Likes: 18
From: Montgomery Il.
Default

08 coupe with A6, NNP, 2.73, Kooks 1 3/4" coated headers, Kooks X-crossover with cats, Halltech CAI with Beehive, 160 t-stat, new plugs and MSD wires plus a dyno/road tune. 389 whp/389 wtq my tuner said this was good for a automatic he said the manual would be appox. 15/20 whp more.
the car sounds slightly louder at idle just enough to make you wonder if anything was done but at WOT it is insane loud when the exhaust opens. imagine open headers with pipes all the way to the back of the car. not sure how much the mods helped the dyno numbers b/c i didn't have a baseline run done but i can say it runs much harder now and drives perfect.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Dec 30, 2008 | 02:52 PM
  #9  
SRTullio's Avatar
SRTullio
Racer
15 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 469
Likes: 7
From: OC California
Default

2008 LS3 coupe here. MN6, Z51. Halltech CAI, LG Street series exiting through NPPs, and HP Tuners tune. I made 418/423

Reply
Old Dec 30, 2008 | 02:59 PM
  #10  
patton's Avatar
patton
Safety Car
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 3,523
Likes: 715
From: panama city beach florida USA
St. Jude Donor '09
Default

if your not racing it save your money
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2008 | 03:01 PM
  #11  
SRTullio's Avatar
SRTullio
Racer
15 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 469
Likes: 7
From: OC California
Default

Originally Posted by patton
if your not racing it save your money
Maybe he wants better sound, some more power, and better driveability and mpg out of the tune?
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2008 | 03:03 PM
  #12  
patton's Avatar
patton
Safety Car
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 3,523
Likes: 715
From: panama city beach florida USA
St. Jude Donor '09
Default

Originally Posted by SRTullio
Maybe he wants better sound, some more power, and better driveability and mpg out of the tune?
pleeeeze
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2008 | 03:15 PM
  #13  
LostAngel's Avatar
LostAngel
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,499
Likes: 5
From: Meadville Pennsylvania
Default

Originally Posted by patton
pleeeeze
Not everyone that get's performance parts races. I have a vararam, exhaust, tune, and soon to be headers. The tune straightened out some surging I had in my stock LS3...intake was just for fun...exhaust because I wanted a louder car...and headers will be because I want them. My car's never been to the drag strip...I get these mods because it makes me happy.
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2008 | 03:16 PM
  #14  
Jon@RedlineMotorsports's Avatar
0Jon@RedlineMotorsports
Former Vendor
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 223
Likes: 0
From: Upstate NY, South FL
Default

All LS motors do NOT see the same gains with headers.

For example, the LS7 has darn good flowing exhaust manifolds right out of the box. They no doubt see less gain from headers than an LS3 (great flowing head, terrible flowing exhaust manifold).

Reply
Old Dec 30, 2008 | 08:21 PM
  #15  
BOB EAGAN's Avatar
BOB EAGAN
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 905
Likes: 0
From: BURTON MI
Default

Originally Posted by Jon@RedlineMotorsports
All LS motors do NOT see the same gains with headers.

For example, the LS7 has darn good flowing exhaust manifolds right out of the box. They no doubt see less gain from headers than an LS3 (great flowing head, terrible flowing exhaust manifold).

That is true about the LS7's and that is why the comment above specified LS2's and LS3's.
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2008 | 08:24 PM
  #16  
BOB EAGAN's Avatar
BOB EAGAN
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 905
Likes: 0
From: BURTON MI
Default

Originally Posted by SRTullio
2008 LS3 coupe here. MN6, Z51. Halltech CAI, LG Street series exiting through NPPs, and HP Tuners tune. I made 418/423

Very nice numbers for your setup. Torque curve is awesome.
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2008 | 08:59 PM
  #17  
BOB EAGAN's Avatar
BOB EAGAN
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 905
Likes: 0
From: BURTON MI
Default

Originally Posted by Just4me
I've been seeing confusing data on headers on the C6. My car is an 09 Auto-LS3 with 2.73 rear...AND NO DRAG RACING IN IT'S FUTURE!! While I don't plan on racing it, I was thinking of doing headers and here in lies my confusion. Some say the power from long tubes will be 25-30, but is that rwhp or flywheel? Others say that the power is 18 hp (again not known if it's rwhp or not) and this is from the SLP website. Is the vast difference just because one brand is so much better? Also, what tube size would be best for the most power, 1 7/8" or 1 3/4", both will have to go thru catalytic converters and NPP exhaust.
I missed the question about which size. Lots of comments on this forum from lots of people , some get into a p-ssing match. Spin, who has done a lot of mod work likes the 1 3/4 for n/a cars. Claims better torque in the mid range. If you're not racing the car, it won't make any difference any way. Go with the best deal from you tuner, and if you want bigger is better bragging rights, go with the 1 7/8. You really wont feel the difference. I personally got 1 7/8 with my h/c package from Livernois Motorsports because that is what they put on thier Stage 2 package. Good luck with your mods.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Header power numbers





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:04 PM.

story-0
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-2
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE