Base brake upgrade
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From: Tyler Tx
Base brake upgrade
I would like to upgrade the brakes on my base 06 C6 to the Z 51 brakes, what would be involved and is it worth it? I have allready upgraded to slot rotors and ceramic pads.
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You need brackets and new rotors. Based on what you have already done, I would leave it alone.
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Stainless lines do help reduce swelling and stretching that can happen in rubber OEM lines (creating a more firm, responsive feel) that I believe also relates to some level of increased stopping power when they get HOT.
The idea is that the rubber lines will expand more under high heat - even if only a bit. That increase in volume reduces the hydraulic pressure than would have been applied to the calipers/brakes.
Also, I believe they also help to reduce H20 seepage.
The idea is that the rubber lines will expand more under high heat - even if only a bit. That increase in volume reduces the hydraulic pressure than would have been applied to the calipers/brakes.
Also, I believe they also help to reduce H20 seepage.
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I must disagree, rubber hoses will swell under hard braking big time, i used to race superbike back in the day and ss lines were the biggest improvement you could do, if you don't drive your car hard and never do hard stops as in track days then your are right it's just a feel thing, i in the other hand drive my car pretty hard sometimes and i love them.
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Opinions vary. I've smoked Motul RBF600 at the track, but I obviously don't drive my car hard. Any changes you can make to affect feel and modulation are important in my opinion. I've never seen a test where a comparison of brake lines changed stopping distance. Not to say there isn't one, I just haven't seen one. I do feel lines and master cylinder braces are good upgrades, I just don't know that they provide quantifiable results. JMHO.
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One last thing my 79 Honda CBX with rubber hoses couldn't even lock the front wheel on dry pavement, it was state of the art in it's day, with the ss lines it will lock it very easily, not that locking a front wheel on a motorcycle is a good idea but it proves the point, it gives you that extra breaking power you will need on the 4 or 5 laps. Lastly when was the last time you saw a race car using rubber hoses?
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Like i said IF you don't drive your car hard you will not see the benifit of ss lines, i agree with you modualtion is very important, unfortunatly with the 4 channel ABS on our cars you donn't have to be a Formula 1 drive to push the pedal hard, and that is the quickest way to stop a new vette.
One last thing my 79 Honda CBX with rubber hoses couldn't even lock the front wheel on dry pavement, it was state of the art in it's day, with the ss lines it will lock it very easily, not that locking a front wheel on a motorcycle is a good idea but it proves the point, it gives you that extra breaking power you will need on the 4 or 5 laps. Lastly when was the last time you saw a race car using rubber hoses?
One last thing my 79 Honda CBX with rubber hoses couldn't even lock the front wheel on dry pavement, it was state of the art in it's day, with the ss lines it will lock it very easily, not that locking a front wheel on a motorcycle is a good idea but it proves the point, it gives you that extra breaking power you will need on the 4 or 5 laps. Lastly when was the last time you saw a race car using rubber hoses?
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Larger rotors give you more brake torque = better stopping power. Z06 rotors are larger than Z51 which are larger than base. Z51 caliper and base calipers are the same. Z51 calipers are on a bracket to make them fit the larger diameter rotor (front).
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And if you want to read about ss lines versus rubber go to stoptech page.
http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp...teel_Q&A.shtml
