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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 10:01 AM
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05- C6 has vibration that goes up & down, Just bearly feel it in steering wheel @ 50 to 60 MPH,but really feel the vibration on vehicle & tires. Had all wheels balanced twice,with propper torque, Tires have no high spots . I am perplexed. Does this @ either accel or decel from 50-60 MPH or 60 to 50 MPH. Completely stops below 50 MPH. Alignment was ok. Had that checked also. Any suggestions? Anyone else with this same problem?
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Some aftermarket wheels can cause this condition, or a damaged OEM wheel.

The most common cause is wheel/tire imbalance, lateral or radial run-out, or tire radial force variation. If possible, I would try a known good set of wheels/tires for diagnosis.

Hunter has a state of the art tire balancer that can measure and compensate for radial force variation and can also detect lateral and radial run out.

Also, dealers use an EVA (Electronic Vibration Analyzer) that can help to determine the source of the vibration. It is sometime drive shaft or axle joint related.

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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by calemasters
Some aftermarket wheels can cause this condition, or a damaged OEM wheel.

The most common cause is wheel/tire imbalance, lateral or radial run-out, or tire radial force variation. If possible, I would try a known good set of wheels/tires for diagnosis.

Hunter has a state of the art tire balancer that can measure and compensate for radial force variation and can also detect lateral and radial run out.

Also, dealers use an EVA (Electronic Vibration Analyzer) that can help to determine the source of the vibration. It is sometime drive shaft or axle joint related.
I have the same problem! I have aftermarket reproduction wheels.. They have been balance and alligned as well. How can we fix it and what is a state of the art tire balancer? Mine were speed balanced and still.
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I have the same issue after switching to aftermarket Z06 wheels. Mine starts at 70 and is horrible at 80. I have been unable to get any faster due to traffic to see if it goes away past 80. I too have had them balanced twice but I am just trying to find time to get it on a Hunter Force Balancer. They are scarce where I am at. I found one but tough to get in there. Wished I had just kept the OEM's. I really don't get to go that fast but it is irritating when I do. THe wife's mini van is smooth as silk at 80. Curious to see if you all find a solution.
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An example of a Hunter balancer that can measure and compensate for tire road force variation is the Hunter GSP9700 Road Force Measurement balancer.

If you have aftermarket wheels that cause a vibration, I would replace the wheels with wheels that have correct wheel specifications. Some aftermarket wheels do cause problems, while other aftermarket wheels are of excellent quality.
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SgtRod
I have the same problem! I have aftermarket reproduction wheels.. They have been balance and alligned as well. How can we fix it and what is a state of the art tire balancer? Mine were speed balanced and still.
Curious if you also have the aftermarket repro Z06 wheels? Not saying others couldn't have the same issue, but just curious if maybe its a common issue with them.
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Can't help you all, but Mr. Quantico, go here (http://www.gsp9700.com/pub/search/findgsp9700.cfm). This is the website for locating a nearby Hunter RoadForce Balancer that calemaster's mentioned.

If you can, try and get to one of the Curry's Automotive shops. They have pretty darned good balancer guys and equipment.
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I have the chrome 5spoke. I get mine at 80ish and it goes something like this ------~~~~-----~~~~-----~~~~. Tell me if I got it right CorpsVette.

It makes me kinda uneasy and not want to drive it like I stold it!

Thank you guys for the info.

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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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Hi! guys, I changed my wheels about a year ago, had the same problem with vibration. Their was an article on the forum about this same topic, it seems that their are two lock washers installed on each rotor at the factory, only purpose is to hold the rotor on while the car is moving on the assemble line. On some aftermarket wheels the holes are not beveled on the back of the rim to clear the washers. This keeps the wheel from seating flush with the rotor. I think the correct word for the washers are (tinnerman nuts). Sure enough when i removed my wheels their they were. I removed the washers and the vibration was gone. Seems simple but that was the problem.
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Hi! guys, I changed my wheels about a year ago, had the same problem with vibration. Their was an article on the forum about this same topic, it seems that their are two lock washers installed on each rotor at the factory, only purpose is to hold the rotor on while the car is moving on the assemble line. On some aftermarket wheels the holes are not beveled on the back of the rim to clear the washers. This keeps the wheel from seating flush with the rotor. I think the correct word for the washers are (tinnerman nuts). Sure enough when i removed my wheels their they were. I removed the washers and the vibration was gone. Seems simple but that was the problem.
Yep, I had hoped this was my issue but I removed them to no avail. Might work for one of the others on here. Here is another question, can I rotate the front tires left to right just to see if anything changes. I do understand the sensors will be backwards but I am curious to see if I can notice a difference. I know the balance is probably off but if I switched and the tire that is more off came to the side where the steering wheel is, the vibration would be worse. Just looking for some deduction here.
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Originally Posted by SgtRod
I have the same problem! I have aftermarket reproduction wheels.. They have been balance and alligned as well. How can we fix it and what is a state of the art tire balancer? Mine were speed balanced and still.
The way to fix your problem is to remove those brake disk keepers that are on the wheelstud between your disk and wheel. Those will throw off the balance when its on the car, but not on the balance machine. I had my aftermarket wheels balanced 3 times before the shop figured out this problem. After removed, the car was nice and tight with no more vibrations. I think the stock wheels have a gap or something that takes in effect those brake rotor keepers. Try it and Im sure your issue will be gone.

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Dont mean to be a smart ***. We have to keep taking things off? Do we need any of these parts or will we have any new negative effects as a result?
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Dont mean to be a smart ***. We have to keep taking things off? Do we need any of these parts or will we have any new negative effects as a result?
As an earlier poster stated above, the factory puts those keepers on there to hold the rotors on when the car is going down the assembly line before the tires go on. The factory wheels are beveled in the back to make room for those things so the wheels can seat properly on the rotor. Some aftermarket wheels dont have those provisions, so when mounted on the car they dont sit perfectly flush on the rotors causing the vibration. It makes sense that my tires were "load balanced" several times at a decent cost and were perfect on the machine, but on the car they vibrated like crazy at 50-60mph.
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Have you just changed tires or damaged one of your tires somehow? I have a set of Sportcups on a Carrera that was bad. ID'ed the one tire, changed, and fixed.
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I just removed the rotor retaining clips and POOF! The vibration was gone and I feel confident at 120+. Thanks alot guys!!!!



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Glad it work for ya SgtRod. Wished I could say the same.

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Hate to say it but buy Forgelines - sorry but you get what you pay for - I would personally try to id which rim in the culprit, take them or it off and send back for a replacement.

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I have the same issue after switching to aftermarket Z06 wheels. Mine starts at 70 and is horrible at 80. I have been unable to get any faster due to traffic to see if it goes away past 80. I too have had them balanced twice but I am just trying to find time to get it on a Hunter Force Balancer. They are scarce where I am at. I found one but tough to get in there. Wished I had just kept the OEM's. I really don't get to go that fast but it is irritating when I do. THe wife's mini van is smooth as silk at 80. Curious to see if you all find a solution.
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