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Old May 2, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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I was hoping for tips and techniques on launching. I can't get this car down the track without breaking or the clutch pedal sticking. I've broke the rear case, output shaft, two half shafts and the bellhousing, I made some changes and now ready to test & tune. I swapped the drag radials for MT streets, lightened the car 200 lbs and put a remote bleeder for clutch valve.
CARTEK TUNE
Drag radial runs.
Half dozen runs with severe wheel hop and breaking parts.
QA1 Adjustable shocks eliminated wheel hop.
Best ET 11.04 @ 130.41 mph 1.75 60 ft 3500 rpm launch.
2nd ET 11.14 @ 131.00 mph 1.78 60 ft 3200 rpm launch.
3rd ET ? 1.57 60 ft 4100 rpm launch clutch pedal stock 3rd gear.
4th ET ? 1.54 60 ft 4200 rpm launch clutch pedal stock 2nd gear.
MT ET Street
200 lbs lighter
No track time yet. Thanks

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Old May 3, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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I posted a reply suggesting you go to an automatic, I think it would be best for a high HP car that is breaking parts..I also had some other suggestions that were from VERY knowledge sorses... But some here "Think" they know MORE than race shops. & deleted my post last night...

Really pizzz me off.. not even a PM explaining WHY... Maybe he knows more than the NJ Tuner shops??

Did Some Moderator remove my reply without the courtesy of notifying me

I like them (Mods) just removing posts because the don't agree.. I had a valid reply.. and its been removed...

How about it "Mods" WHY"

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you sound like you're doing what i would be doing, are you side stepping, popping or easing off like your taking off normal from a stop? i would try the latter as it will maintain traction and is easier on your drive train, on the shifts maybe slow the clutch release to be easier on eevrything.

How i launch:

1) get up to an rpm (depends on power/ tire)

2) let off clutch as if your just at a stop light only faster, adding gas to keep the rpms constant to the value in step 1

3) keep increasing the rpm in 1, and the rate of release in 2 until you spin

4) if you spin initially your rpm in 1 is too high

5) if you spin a second or two after moving your rate in 2 is to fast

6) if you bog add rpm to step 1

it seems elementary but you cant run before you can crawl
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Old May 3, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by jpee
I posted a reply suggesting you go to an automatic, I think it would be best for a high HP car that is breaking parts..I also had some other suggestions that were from VERY knowledge sorses... But some here "Think" they know MORE than race shops. & deleted my post last night...

Really pizzz me off.. not even a PM explaining WHY... Maybe he knows more than the NJ Tuner shops??

Did Some Moderator remove my reply without the courtesy of notifying me

I like them (Mods) just removing posts because the don't agree.. I had a valid reply.. and its been removed...

How about it "Mods" WHY"
I don't think they removed it. I replied to your message. Its still in the drag racing section.
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Originally Posted by SinisterC6
you sound like you're doing what i would be doing, are you side stepping, popping or easing off like your taking off normal from a stop? i would try the latter as it will maintain traction and is easier on your drive train, on the shifts maybe slow the clutch release to be easier on eevrything.

How i launch:

1) get up to an rpm (depends on power/ tire)

2) let off clutch as if your just at a stop light only faster, adding gas to keep the rpms constant to the value in step 1

3) keep increasing the rpm in 1, and the rate of release in 2 until you spin

4) if you spin initially your rpm in 1 is too high

5) if you spin a second or two after moving your rate in 2 is to fast

6) if you bog add rpm to step 1

it seems elementary but you cant run before you can crawl
I have a habbit of side stepping the clutch for years racing another car. I've tried the ease off the clutch way and sometimes it bogs a little and sometimes it seems to hook better and not break anything. I guess this is the best technique for my combo. Thanks
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Old May 3, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by chazc6
I don't think they removed it. I replied to your message. Its still in the drag racing section.
My apologies if I'm wrong.. I do remember replying to your post, & "Thought" my reply had been removed... MY mistake I'm sorry if I offended any Mods....


See what happens when you get "OLD"
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...control-2.html

check this out....makes launching the car much easier
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My apologies if I'm wrong.. I do remember replying to your post, & "Thought" my reply had been removed... MY mistake I'm sorry if I offended any Mods....


See what happens when you get "OLD"
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Originally Posted by chazc6
Don't worry nobody is perfect.
THis is not true at all, my wife told me that I think I am perfect last night
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Originally Posted by SPRAYED LS3
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...control-2.html

check this out....makes launching the car much easier
Thanks i'll check it out.
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Originally Posted by SPRAYED LS3
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...control-2.html

check this out....makes launching the car much easier

CARTEK You'll see the sticker on the BACK window






Same here I have my CARTEK sticker on my rear window...




I'm gonna have to give Julio a few tips on tuning when i get time. But he will do ok until then

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I don't have much to offer in the way of help but I am curious as to what you did you shave 200lbs of your car?
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Originally Posted by chazc6
I was hoping for tips and techniques on launching. I can't get this car down the track without breaking or the clutch pedal sticking. I've broke the rear case, output shaft, two half shafts and the bellhousing, I made some changes and now ready to test & tune. I swapped the drag radials for MT streets, lightened the car 200 lbs and put a remote bleeder for clutch valve.
Hi Chas...I think you should put this in the Z06 topic and seek the experts advice like Ranger, Jamie Furman, Doc Ron and M. Walter.
btw- did you ever try those Hoos?

Originally Posted by jpee
My apologies if I'm wrong.. I do remember replying to your post, & "Thought" my reply had been removed... MY mistake I'm sorry if I offended any Mods....

See what happens when you get "OLD"
You can always remove any of your posts by hitting "edit" and then
select "delete message". I do all the time when I make goofs.


Originally Posted by k0bun
I don't have much to offer in the way of help but I am curious as to what you did you shave 200lbs of your car?
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...-help-plz.html

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Hi Chas...I think you should put this in the Z06 topic and seek the experts advice like Ranger, Jamie Furman, Doc Ron and M. Walter.
btw- did you ever ty those Hoos?
Hey
I would like to put it on the Z06 topic. Does it matter if i'm running a C6 non Z06?
I decided to try the Nitto NT05 335/30ZR19'' street tire, it has a more forgiving sidewall and their similar to the Toyo R888 but not as sticky. I didn't think it was a good ideal to have the stiff sidewall with the wheel hop issue i was having. Thanks good advise
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THis is not true at all, my wife told me that I think I am perfect last night
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Old May 3, 2009 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by k0bun
I don't have much to offer in the way of help but I am curious as to what you did you shave 200lbs of your car?
Subtract
Seats -70 lbs
Exhaust -50 lbs
Brakes -34 lbs
wheels -24 lbs
Tires -28 lbs
Battery -22 lbs
_____
= -228 lbs

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Originally Posted by chazc6
Subtract
Seats -70 lbs
Exhaust -50 lbs
Brakes -34 lbs
wheels -24 lbs
Tires -28 lbs
Battery -22 lbs
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= -200 lbs

power steering rack -50 lbs
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power steering rack -50 lbs
Wow i got to check that out.

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I would like to put it on the Z06 topic. Does it matter if i'm running a C6 non Z06?
No problem. I saw you got rid of your seats for 70 lbs, do you drive
your car on the strip like Dennis does, using one of those low boy beach chairs instead?

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No problem. I saw you got rid of your seats for 70 lbs, do you drive
your car on the strip like Dennis does, using one of those low boy beach chairs instead?

I have two state of the art low budget Summit racing seats & covers that weigh 11 lbs for $60.00 each.
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