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Old May 30, 2009 | 04:55 PM
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Default Heat damage with Headers

I have searched but came up with very little.

Specially concerning the C6 and Header heat damage.

For street use how much of a concern.

By the way I am not interested in preventive coatings on the pipes, rather what damage that has transpired due to uncoated SS.

Thanks for real world history.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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Zero damage in 5000 miles. No plug wires melted, the body didn't melt off...Oh, I did add an Elite Engineering heat shield so my console temps are cooler..
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Old May 30, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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About 15000 miles with uncoated LG's. no issues at all. In fact the cockpit is even cooler than stock without a tunnel plate. Those cast iron manifolds are like ovens under the hood.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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Same here. No problem at all with Kooks uncoated.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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About 15000 miles with uncoated LG's. no issues at all. In fact the cockpit is even cooler than stock without a tunnel plate. Those cast iron manifolds are like ovens under the hood.
That and the stock cat location right under your feet..Forgot to add uncoated American Racing..
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Old May 30, 2009 | 08:01 PM
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That and the stock cat location right under your feet..Forgot to add uncoated American Racing..
Good point.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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Yes I too have the Tunnel Plate. Just seems as if the engine compartment is really hot. Might just be me worrying about the added heat. I have the boots for the plug wires, nothing else.
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Yes I too have the Tunnel Plate. Just seems as if the engine compartment is really hot. Might just be me worrying about the added heat. I have the boots for the plug wires, nothing else.
Where did you get the boots from?
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Originally Posted by NYC6
Where did you get the boots from?
Sent PM
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There's a lot more heat coming from the cats then the headers. The only concerns about the headers is baking the wires and increase in under the hood tempature.
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Any other comments?
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On my '08 Z where the steering shaft comes through the firewall there is a white plastic grommet that was showing signs of heat damage. Another Z owner with headers had the same thing happen and pointed it out to me before I noticed it. I wrapped the header pipe closest to it for a couple inches because that's all I could get to and it has been fine. On the passenger side there was a wire loom or something beginning to melt so I did the same over there. I can't remember exactly what it was.
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Originally Posted by nwc6
Zero damage in 5000 miles. No plug wires melted, the body didn't melt off...Oh, I did add an Elite Engineering heat shield so my console temps are cooler..
ditto
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Originally Posted by vetracer
On my '08 Z where the steering shaft comes through the firewall there is a white plastic grommet that was showing signs of heat damage. Another Z owner with headers had the same thing happen and pointed it out to me before I noticed it. I wrapped the header pipe closest to it for a couple inches because that's all I could get to and it has been fine. On the passenger side there was a wire loom or something beginning to melt so I did the same over there. I can't remember exactly what it was.
So wrapping the header pipe partially is ok. I have read that wrapping the pipes is not a good idea. I was told to wrap the forward pipe a bit on the passenger side due to to much heat on a air conditioner part. The heat causes the air conditioner to shut down. Have not done it yet, still trying to get advice.
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Why not just pay to get them coated and not worry?
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Originally Posted by EkS
Why not just pay to get them coated and not worry?


That's it, get 'em Jet-Hot coated and your research is done with no worries.
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Guess some of you did not read my initial post completely.
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Originally Posted by Boomer111
So wrapping the header pipe partially is ok. I have read that wrapping the pipes is not a good idea. I was told to wrap the forward pipe a bit on the passenger side due to to much heat on a air conditioner part. The heat causes the air conditioner to shut down. Have not done it yet, still trying to get advice.
It is OK but if it gets wet and soaks up water it will rust faster than water hitting it from driving normally.
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Originally Posted by Boomer111
Guess some of you did not read my initial post completely.
I did read it.

Did you read my question?
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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Coating is not a option, or in the discussion period......What i am interested in learning is what problems exist when running SS headers in the Vette and in other cars as well. I am not convinced that coating is necessary for the SS tubing. Yes I see some 100+ degree heat differencees in some tests but I think, so what.
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