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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 12:53 AM
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I did change them this morning and naturally as luck would have it, I trashed a plug wire in the process. Got a new one and away I went. I haven't seen any issue since then although now I'm way out here at work, 60 miles away with it. It'll be fine tonight since its much cooler here near the ocean. Tomorrow, I should be able to make a determination if there is still a problem or not.

Thanks for all the help so far with this, its greatly appreciated.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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Update for Wednesday; It was fine this morning in 102 degree heat outside. Started and stopped several times with no problems so far. At this point, will proceed into the weekend and so on before possibly taking it to the dealer, in hopes that it won't become necessary. I'm going to feel really stupid, having spent a small fortune on a battery and alternator(s) all because I changed the plugs....if this was the cause.
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 12:41 AM
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Update for Wednesday; It was fine this morning in 102 degree heat outside. Started and stopped several times with no problems so far. At this point, will proceed into the weekend and so on before possibly taking it to the dealer, in hopes that it won't become necessary. I'm going to feel really stupid, having spent a small fortune on a battery and alternator(s) all because I changed the plugs....if this was the cause.
I wouldn't feel stupid at all. This is a common problem that apparently even GM hasn't figured out and it will be great if the source of the problem can finally be identified. And, you aren't the only one that's bought a new battery and alternator.
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Old Jul 24, 2009 | 09:59 AM
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Seems like its fixed!!!





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Old Jul 24, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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Friday now and still no more problems. When it starts, the regulator is turning on as I can see it happening on the analog display. So far, seems to be working. I'll call this a good fix if nothing happens in the next couple of days. Got to say, the plugs are way out in left field as a possible cause of a charging issue but so far, so good. I'll keep the updates coming till we're sure and done.
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 09:31 AM
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As to the plugs causing the problem, at least for me, I have the original plugs from the time I bought the car. And, for what it is worth, as I said earlier, for some reason, the problem has vanished. I do notice, however, that with the ac on, and at idle, the voltage does seem to fluctuate between a low on 11.8 up to 14.4. Even when it is showing a slight discharge, say 12.4, I am not getting the service charging system on. Is it normal for the voltage to occasionally drop, however briefly, to these levels?
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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When I took notice was when I had a service charge system message and since then, I am paying close attention to it. It appears that when its working normally, when starting up, the analog gauge will sweep ful scale which is normal, then drop to a low level around 12vdc or so, then immediately pop up which is apparently when the regulator is being commanded on. If you aren't seeing this pop up, then I would suggest you take a look at those plugs if you didn't buy your car new. BTW, GM has replaced the 41-985's now too with 41-110 or 101...can't remember which this second. I started getting the problems after putting in the NGK Laser Cut plugs.
If this totally solves my issues, it'll be something we'll all need to remember for all of us as everyone will eventually be replacing their plugs at some point and this is bound to happen again...again, "IF" its the cause.
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Old Jul 25, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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I'm glad your car is charging properly now. I would love to know how components in the ignition system could affect the charging system. I know that most new cars have complex electrical systems with on board CPU's, but I'm still curious on how the 2 systems interact with each other to the point of giving you a false/positive on a charging system issue. What you went through on fixing this is one that I won't forget. Anyways, glad that is seems to have all worked out.
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Its not quite a done deal yet, but it looks promising so far!
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