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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Rock'n Blue 08
600 to the wheels with stick is gunna pull away fast from 400 hp with an auto!
Well yeah, even only 450 to the wheels with a stick should easily pull away from 400 to the wheels in an automatic from a roll, depending on what speed they start at at least.
But from a dig or a very slow roll the results could vary.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
A great driver in a 400rwhp manual Corvette can still beat a poor driver in a 450rwhp manual Corvette, all else being equal. And if that's the case, what's the use in having more power?

That is very true. Where the more power comes into play is in any situation where you are not drag racing. You want to pass someone, you want to "merge" with some loud peddle, you want to do a quick blast down the highway, etc. More mph shows up on more occasions than an impressive ET, which is directly related to traction and a good launch...in which case you are at a stop. Most of my driving does not involve being stopped.

With that said, I am merely reflecting on my personal abilities w/ my personal cars. I know in a drag race I can get my launch in the 95th percentile and my shifts accordingly. I may not be the best, but I am certainly in the upper bracket and that gap widens significantly when it comes to a roadcourse. This why when I see a car laying down serious mph I am impressed. I know I could train myself to extract most of the performance it is capable of with enough seat time.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
Well yeah, even only 450 to the wheels with a stick should easily pull away from 400 to the wheels in an automatic from a roll, depending on what speed they start at at least.
But from a dig or a very slow roll the results do vary.
fixed.

My z28 with a YTP 4000 stall and nitto dr as my regular tires, I had less than 400 rwhp and beat 450+ HP manual cars from a slow roll or dead stop, especially those rolling on factory rubber.

Guys bragging about first or second gear being useless, get crushed by a properly set up auto unless they start the race on the freeway.
Old Oct 2, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Ragtop 99
fixed.

My z28 with a YTP 4000 stall and nitto dr as my regular tires, I had less than 400 rwhp and beat 450+ HP manual cars from a slow roll or dead stop, especially those rolling on factory rubber.

Guys bragging about first or second gear being useless, get crushed by a properly set up auto unless they start the race on the freeway.
exactly, and how many times will you ever run into a guy on the freeway, or go over 130
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Originally Posted by 1.8t
Where the more power comes into play is in any situation where you are not drag racing. You want to pass someone, you want to "merge" with some loud peddle, you want to do a quick blast down the highway, etc. More mph shows up on more occasions than an impressive ET, which is directly related to traction and a good launch...in which case you are at a stop. Most of my driving does not involve being stopped.
Good points.
It simply is a personal preference I suppose...much of my driving involves traffic lights, merging (from a dead stop) on to open two lane roads and stop and go driving so I guess my preference are geared a little more towards being able to beat the guy who's lined up next to me at a red light.
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Originally Posted by PRE-Z06
What was the difference in DA when you ran and they ran? Were wheel and tire setups the same? I ask because I have not come across a scenario like that in my experience.
Sent you a pm with videos and a explanation, since i can't post these videos on an open forum.
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Sent you a pm with videos and a explanation, since i can't post these videos on an open forum.
Hey i wanna see some cool videos..send em to me...
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Does spinning the tires really inflate your trap speed? I have heard that before but it makes no sense to me.. Can anyone show me some proof that it is true?
You accellerate fastest with limited tire slip!
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Originally Posted by dennis50nj
until you come up against a fast car like mine, it doesn't magically stop at the 1/4 mile marker, whats your best time so far, post a slip for me
I don't live at the track or go much as I'm not adding a roll bar.

I just telling you your fast ET from a track across the country.
Known for fast ET's doesn't mean alot to me. The Auto and converter is king at THE strip.
Ok. But
My car would pass your car on the highway and be gone! Is actually much faster than yours!

Your dreaming if you think anything else!

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Originally Posted by Rock'n Blue 08
I don't live at the track or go much as I'm not adding a roll bar.

I just telling you your fast ET from a track across the country.
Known for fast ET's doesn't mean alot to me. The Auto and converter is king at THE strip.
Ok. But
My car would pass your car on the highway and be gone! Is actually much faster than yours!

Your dreaming if you think anything else!
i dont want to here you , or make excuses do you have a time slip or not, you might think you can but theirs an old saying, I'm sure you know what it ismaybe in the texas mile if we passed 1 car on a three lane highway going 50 mph at the same time i would complete the pass first
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Originally Posted by dennis50nj
i dont want to here you , or make excuses do you have a time slip or not, you might think you can but theirs an old saying, I'm sure you know what it ismaybe in the texas mile if we passed 1 car on a three lane highway going 50 mph at the same time i would complete the pass first

You can continue dream on. 50 mph? Your doors would be gone!
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Originally Posted by Rock'n Blue 08

You can continue dream on. 50 mph? Your doors would be gone!
thats were your wrong sh*t in one hand and dream in the other and see which one fills up first stop bench racing and show me your timeslip, are you trying to tell me you never ran it with your charger,
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Originally Posted by dennis50nj
i dont want to here you , or make excuses do you have a time slip or not
No need for a time slip, he's got a dyno sheet.
Having a bigger dyno sheet is all one needs to prove that they are truly faster.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
Well yeah, even only 450 to the wheels with a stick should easily pull away from 400 to the wheels in an automatic from a roll, depending on what speed they start at at least.
But from a dig or a very slow roll the results could vary.
There you said it! So Dennis with a Ls-2 with maybe 400 to the wheels and an Auto is going to keep up with 600 to the wheels and 390 gears from a 50 roll. You can continue to be a legend in your own minds!

I'm done with this thread!
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Originally Posted by dennis50nj
thats were your wrong sh*t in one hand and dream in the other and see which one fills up first stop bench racing and show me your timeslip, are you trying to tell me you never ran it with your charger,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! **** in your in own hand! And keep dreaming!
Don't need to beat my car at the strip to know it's FASTER THAN yours
from a 50 roll! If you drive out here I gladly go pink slips! Your 1.4
60 ft isn't going to help you. AT 50 mph roll YOUR TOAST!
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Originally Posted by Rock'n Blue 08
There you said it! So Dennis with a Ls-2 with maybe 400 to the wheels and an Auto is going to keep up with 600 to the wheels and 390 gears from a 50 roll.
Yes I said it, but Dennis didn't. Maybe he knows something that you and I don't know but until you and him race we'll never actually know for sure now will we?
I don't know how you drive/how capable you are or if you can even handle 400rwhp nevermind 600rwhp so until you actually beat him one can't really say for sure.
My opinion is yes, you would likely win in a run from a 50 roll but he would absolutely HAND YOU YOUR A$$ from a dig as well.






Originally Posted by Rock'n Blue 08
You can continue to be a legend in your own minds!
But wait, wouldn't someone who is already claiming absolute superiority from a 50 roll (without actually having won the race yet) also be considered a legend in his own mind?
At least Dennis has some real proof of how fast his car is.
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