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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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Pro's and con's of high flow cats with headers????
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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Use them, it's the law?
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i did them so it doesn't stink when I have the targa off and I am stuck in traffic
plus helps out the enviroment
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Helps the environment, but its not too clear whether today's autos actually need them anymore. Engine efficiency has come a long way since the 70s.

That said, it's up to you and your state. Some states don't even check for cats anymore because the check engine light will eliminate if removed. This can be corrected with a tune. But if you are in one of the states that still do a visible check upon inspection, you are better off with cats installed.
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I can see right thru my high flow cats...I got them with my setup to pass the visual and like the other poster said to keep the smell at a minimum when the car is idling at a traffic light or in my garage.
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Originally Posted by knyght4
Helps the environment, but its not too clear whether today's autos actually need them anymore. Engine efficiency has come a long way since the 70s.
Today's autos definitely need them, and they're not there for efficiency.

If modern engines put out nothing but CO2 and H2O, there wouldn't be any reaction to catalyze, and cats wouldn't be exothermic - which they are. But one doesn't need a sniffer or an IR thermometer to know they're working - most people can smell the difference (in HC, anyway).
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Today's autos definitely need them, and they're not there for efficiency.

If modern engines put out nothing but CO2 and H2O, there wouldn't be any reaction to catalyze, and cats wouldn't be exothermic - which they are. But one doesn't need a sniffer or an IR thermometer to know they're working - most people can smell the difference (in HC, anyway).
I made the boo boo of putting the offroad x-pipe on my car when I had the blower installed right after I bought the car new. Major mistake! Last year while at ECS for more performance upgrades I had cats put back on. Now I no longer have to sprint out of the garage to beat the odor!
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Funny, I have a 2000 Mustang GT w/o cats and headers as my beater , and have no smell.
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Originally Posted by saplumr
I made the boo boo of putting the offroad x-pipe on my car when I had the blower installed right after I bought the car new. Major mistake! Last year while at ECS for more performance upgrades I had cats put back on. Now I no longer have to sprint out of the garage to beat the odor!
what cats did you install?
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