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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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My 05 C6 started skipping; codes that came up were P0302 & P0352.
P0302=Misfire in cyl #2
P0352= Ignition Coil No. 2

So, I replaced coil #2, spark plug, and plug wire.. Still skipping and same codes... Pulled plug and checked "no spark"

[B]Anyone got any ideas???????[/B

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Check the wires. Maybe you have a broken wire. Also pull the connector and check the pins. Sometimes the wires can back off the pins inside the connector in there and cause a lack of connection. I see it on aircraft all the time. your vette obviously isnt a plane but I would start there. If thats not it go to the next highest component in the system.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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Check the wires. Maybe you have a broken wire. Also pull the connector and check the pins. Sometimes the wires can back off the pins inside the connector in there and cause a lack of connection. I see it on aircraft all the time. your vette obviously isnt a plane but I would start there. If thats not it go to the next highest component in the system.
New coil, plug, wire.. Pins are good and tight. whats the next component? thx!
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 10:54 PM
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You have replace all the parts but still no spark #2. Just for grins I would swap the coil with the one next to it and see if the miss moves. The only thing else would be that the coil is not getting a signal from the ecm to fire, may-be a bad connection at the coil or the main connection to the bank of coils, bent pin or loose. May be able to check voltage to coil. A service manual would help here. I am at work or I would look up the trouble shooting for the coil. Sometimes a valve spring will break and cause a miss but you said you are not getting spark at the plug so that is not the problem.
If you fix it let us know how.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DONALD HALL
You have replace all the parts but still no spark #2. Just for grins I would swap the coil with the one next to it and see if the miss moves. The only thing else would be that the coil is not getting a signal from the ecm to fire, may-be a bad connection at the coil or the main connection to the bank of coils, bent pin or loose. May be able to check voltage to coil. A service manual would help here. I am at work or I would look up the trouble shooting for the coil. Sometimes a valve spring will break and cause a miss but you said you are not getting spark at the plug so that is not the problem.
If you fix it let us know how.
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Yep, I'm stumped.. I tried to swap the coil with the one on the other side, still no spark to the #2.. its got t be where ever the signal comes from... I think I'm at my limit, I guess its time for the dealer.. I hate bringing my car to them with all the mods I have on it.. Yuk...
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 11:02 PM
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also check compression on #2. and check injector and signal to the injector on #2 cyl.
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I just thought of something, Some autos when the ecm thinks the engine is missing on a given cylinder it will shut down the injector to that cylinder and it may shut down the coil too. However when you clear the codes it will bring the cylinder back up.
Just for grins do a quick compression check on #2, dont pull all the plugs and disable the injectors just unplug the main harness to the coils on each side, screw in the compression gage and turn the engine over a few times. If all is well it will show good.
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also check compression on #2. and check injector and signal to the injector on #2 cyl.
Would either of these effects there being no spark coming from the coil?
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You are correct, that would not directly effect the spark on #2, unless the ecm is cutting off the coil for some reason after is thinks there is a problem. I know we do a lot of quessing.
You may consider a good local tuner shop rather than the dealer.
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Originally Posted by DONALD HALL
You are correct, that would not directly effect the spark on #2, unless the ecm is cutting off the coil for some reason after is thinks there is a problem. I know we do a lot of quessing.
You may consider a good local tuner shop rather than the dealer.
Thx... My tuner is booked till end of next week thats why i was thinking the dealer, I'm just impaitient.lol I'm guessing ecu or bad connection, because it was doing it the other day then stopped for a day then doing it again. If it was something serious with engine or compression it wouldn't come and go..IMHO
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Thx... My tuner is booked till end of next week thats why i was thinking the dealer, I'm just impaitient.lol I'm guessing ecu or bad connection, because it was doing it the other day then stopped for a day then doing it again. If it was something serious with engine or compression it wouldn't come and go..IMHO
You would be correct,
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Update: its been at the dealer all day and they haven't found the problem yet....
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Update: its been at the dealer all day and they haven't found the problem yet....
I would get it out of there. Alot of dealer techs don't like working on modded cars. It's a fairly simple circuit and should not be hard to find the problem. at the #2 coil 4 wire connector, check for power on the pink wire and gronud on the black wire. then put a test light across the pink and orange/white wire. Make sure the test light has more resistance than a known good coil (between terminals c&d). Start the engine, if the light is not flashing you may have an open or a fried coil driver in the ecm. PM me if you need help.
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Originally Posted by c6 batmobile
Check the wires. Maybe you have a broken wire. Also pull the connector and check the pins. Sometimes the wires can back off the pins inside the connector in there and cause a lack of connection. I see it on aircraft all the time. your vette obviously isnt a plane but I would start there. If thats not it go to the next highest component in the system.
Not sure if you have back all 4 pins out of the connector but you might want to take a close look at the crimp at the pin. Usually if there is an issue it shows up early (not sure how many miles are on your car) The three issues I have seen are overcrimped where most of the strands of wire are cut creating high resistance, the insulation has not been cut back all the way and the crimp is on the insulation instead of the wire, again high resistance; and last but not least corrosion.

Like stated above the best way to diag this would be to swap coil / plug / wire from a known good cylinder and see if the problem follows the parts or stays with the cylinder.

As you probably know P0302 is a misfire for cylinder #2 which is a general code that could mean anything (injector, coil, plug, compression, etc. etc).

P0352 is for a ignition confirmation signal from the coil. If you have this code it is most likely a coil, circuit, or ECU issue, but check the easy stuff first with a parts swap!

Best of luck with your diag!

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I'd say once you follow the above suggestions and have no luck, based on the info you've provided, I'd say it's the ECM. Has it been flashed with a handheld or dyno'd by computer? The dealer will undoubtedly groan about the mods (not sure if you're under warranty), and may set the ECM to stock specs. You tuner is probably the best bet. JMHO. Hope you get it squared-away.
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Well would you believe the dealer found it. It was an open circuit after the ecm. My dealer is cool, and the service writer is a friend. They're cool with all my mods. He first thought it was the ecm, and was going to warranty it but then found the issue. It took a bit to find it with all the extra wiring from the supercharger and gauges. I was expecting a lot of labor hrs after two days of looking, but he only charged me $200.. Thanks for all the help guys!!!! There are a lot of knowledgeable guys on here...
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