Brake ducts for front rotors
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I just want to clarify some things about our hose.
It's custom made for us and features an external wire (as noted) that is mechanically bonded (i.e. crimped) around the fabric. The fabric is very similar to that pictured in the SCAT hose above, basically silicon coated fabric.
The problem with the SCAT hose is it has no external wire, and when the hose rubs the a-arms (as it will) you will have a hole in no time flat. The SCAT hose is also glued and offers plenty of places to de-laminate.
It is true that our race hose can tear, but I would definitely not say easily when properly installed. The nature of the silicone coated fabric is that it is simply not as "tough" as the neoprene polyester fabric found in our "street" kits. That stuff is near impossible to tear and features the same construction as the silicone hose.
If you are are looking for a kit you intend to leave on a car driven on the street choose the street kit.
On our car we run race hose on one side and street hose on the other and have yet to melt the street hose. (with plenty of track time).
Thanks,
Jon
It's custom made for us and features an external wire (as noted) that is mechanically bonded (i.e. crimped) around the fabric. The fabric is very similar to that pictured in the SCAT hose above, basically silicon coated fabric.
The problem with the SCAT hose is it has no external wire, and when the hose rubs the a-arms (as it will) you will have a hole in no time flat. The SCAT hose is also glued and offers plenty of places to de-laminate.
It is true that our race hose can tear, but I would definitely not say easily when properly installed. The nature of the silicone coated fabric is that it is simply not as "tough" as the neoprene polyester fabric found in our "street" kits. That stuff is near impossible to tear and features the same construction as the silicone hose.
If you are are looking for a kit you intend to leave on a car driven on the street choose the street kit.
On our car we run race hose on one side and street hose on the other and have yet to melt the street hose. (with plenty of track time).
Thanks,
Jon
I think honestly the external wire on your hose is part of the problem. When it rubs, the cloth tears where the wire is. Just my experience.
Overall I am pleased with the kit and have said so plenty of times here on the forum. I just have had better luck with the SCAT than the supplied hose.
San
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My SCAT hose has proven more resistant to tears. It has an internal wire. It's been about eight months and there are no issues.
I think honestly the external wire on your hose is part of the problem. When it rubs, the cloth tears where the wire is. Just my experience.
Overall I am pleased with the kit and have said so plenty of times here on the forum. I just have had better luck with the SCAT than the supplied hose.
San
I think honestly the external wire on your hose is part of the problem. When it rubs, the cloth tears where the wire is. Just my experience.
Overall I am pleased with the kit and have said so plenty of times here on the forum. I just have had better luck with the SCAT than the supplied hose.
San
Our kits technically carry no warranty (as to the nature of the product, racing) but the hose should not tear easily at all. Send me an email and I will be happy to send you replacement hose.
Thanks,
Jon
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Not a problem at all. It's possible you received some faulty hose. We had a problem with a batch a some time back and replaced some that tore prematurely. I believe it was "over-crimped" causing de-lamination.
Our kits technically carry no warranty (as to the nature of the product, racing) but the hose should not tear easily at all. Send me an email and I will be happy to send you replacement hose.
Thanks,
Jon
Our kits technically carry no warranty (as to the nature of the product, racing) but the hose should not tear easily at all. Send me an email and I will be happy to send you replacement hose.
Thanks,
Jon
I like the kit and have recommended it to others here. Standing behind your product means a lot too. I know where I'll go if I need ducts for the WRX.
San
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Damn don't know how I missed this thread. I wouldn't have started my own. Anyway, so shich kit does not require removal of the bearing? Quantum? I already have the ZO6 inlets so what is included in these kits? I guess I'll need the spindles and the duct hose.
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brake ducts ..brake ducts
LG: great set-up, but requires removal of the front hubs
Quantum: does NOT require removal of front hubs. Redirected outlet is unsupported with data.
I'm a firm believer that the factory ( negative = suction) system is nearly worthless. So I Designed my own brake ducts ( positive displacement)...
Just a teaser, I'll wait for full report after this weekends NASA event at PPIR...notice anything missing???
Quantum: does NOT require removal of front hubs. Redirected outlet is unsupported with data.
I'm a firm believer that the factory ( negative = suction) system is nearly worthless. So I Designed my own brake ducts ( positive displacement)...
Just a teaser, I'll wait for full report after this weekends NASA event at PPIR...notice anything missing???
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LG: great set-up, but requires removal of the front hubs
Quantum: does NOT require removal of front hubs. Redirected outlet is unsupported with data.
I'm a firm believer that the factory ( negative = suction) system is nearly worthless. So I Designed my own brake ducts ( positive displacement)...
Just a teaser, I'll wait for full report after this weekends NASA event at PPIR...notice anything missing???
Quantum: does NOT require removal of front hubs. Redirected outlet is unsupported with data.
I'm a firm believer that the factory ( negative = suction) system is nearly worthless. So I Designed my own brake ducts ( positive displacement)...
Just a teaser, I'll wait for full report after this weekends NASA event at PPIR...notice anything missing???
We were working on this kit and actually produced two kits. One for our car and one for Michellin. Then we debuted them on this site... Only had three or four people interested at the price point. So back to the drawing board to make it cheaper to manufacture...
Frankly the factory system (negative pressure inlet) is sufficient for most users.
Not sure about your comment about our plate design... I have data, but none comparing directly to LG. I can say that both are designed to send air to the center of the rotor. Ours has an outlet on the inside to direct cooling air to the backside of the bearing as well. This is something we try to design into our kits whenever possible. Most race car brake cooling kits cool more than just the rotors...
Thanks,
Jon
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LG: great set-up, but requires removal of the front hubs
Quantum: does NOT require removal of front hubs. Redirected outlet is unsupported with data.
I'm a firm believer that the factory ( negative = suction) system is nearly worthless. So I Designed my own brake ducts ( positive displacement)...
Just a teaser, I'll wait for full report after this weekends NASA event at PPIR...notice anything missing???
Quantum: does NOT require removal of front hubs. Redirected outlet is unsupported with data.
I'm a firm believer that the factory ( negative = suction) system is nearly worthless. So I Designed my own brake ducts ( positive displacement)...
Just a teaser, I'll wait for full report after this weekends NASA event at PPIR...notice anything missing???
I'd rather use those spots for intercoolers. 
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Not sure about your comment about our plate design... I have data, but none comparing directly to LG. I can say that both are designed to send air to the center of the rotor. Ours has an outlet on the inside to direct cooling air to the backside of the bearing as well.
Jon
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can't wait to see what you come up with for foglite kit. That fan option you mentioned in an earlier post is ...
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Here is what I came up with....
positive pressure fog-lite brake duct inlets feeding a true 3" system front to back, using factory mounting system to the front facia.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...brication.html
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...brication.html
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The original "forced air cooling" kit for your Corvette. 
http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.co...uct%20Kit.html
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http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.co...uct%20Kit.html
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The original "forced air cooling" kit for your Corvette.
http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.co...uct%20Kit.html
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http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.co...uct%20Kit.html
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It may be the original "spindle duct" but I wouldn't term it as "forced air cooling"
Many vendors would agree. IE: Katech has moved to a "forced air" set-up with thier integrated chin spoiler/brake duct system with actual wind tunel video to back it up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHsfoCmYNtM
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I'm pretty sure that still functions as a bottom feeder "negative pressure".
It may be the original "spindle duct" but I wouldn't term it as "forced air cooling"
Many vendors would agree. IE: Katech has moved to a "forced air" set-up with thier integrated chin spoiler/brake duct system with actual wind tunel video to back it up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHsfoCmYNtM
It may be the original "spindle duct" but I wouldn't term it as "forced air cooling"
Many vendors would agree. IE: Katech has moved to a "forced air" set-up with thier integrated chin spoiler/brake duct system with actual wind tunel video to back it up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHsfoCmYNtM
We are on the same page, I just did not clarify myself well enough, sorry.
Our spindle ducts, not how they are routed to them-which is not our design, were the original "forced air" kit. Meaning that we enclosed the rotor backing so all the air from the ducts has to flow threw the rotor vanes.
We do require removing the hub to install them, but that's a whole three bolts, not sure why that would be viewed as a tough job. I have replaced several hubs at the track for people in between sessions, let alone on a lift or cold car.
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