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Old May 10, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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I have a 2006 LS2 manual 6. Just installed a 236/236 602/602 113ComCam last week. Having a few problems:

1. Hearing a loud, fast tapping sound coming from the engine. It comes and goes.

2. Whenever I push my clutch in to stop, RPMs drop down to almost 0 and then go back up to 800 and sits at idle.

Just wondering if anyone has ever experienced anything like this?
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Old May 10, 2010 | 08:39 PM
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I have a 2006 LS2 manual 6. Just installed a 236/236 602/602 113ComCam last week. Having a few problems:

1. Hearing a loud, fast tapping sound coming from the engine. It comes and goes.

2. Whenever I push my clutch in to stop, RPMs drop down to almost 0 and then go back up to 800 and sits at idle.

Just wondering if anyone has ever experienced anything like this?
#2 Happens to me on occasion, but not often. 230*/236* @ .050" .612"/.615" 115
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Old May 10, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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A fast tapping sound might be something in the valve train, loose rocker, lifter not pumped up. Normal noise with larger cams.
The dropping idle is common with cams, however a good tuner can tune it out using something called minium idle air flow tables. Ask SpinMonster he knows. My tuner drilled a hole in the throttle plate this is NOT the recommened solution.
Hope this helps
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Old May 10, 2010 | 09:37 PM
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Idle undershoot/overshoot can be corrected within the "Airflow Final Minimum" table....cam'd car must be tuned to run right and this is just one of the adjustments that must be made.
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Old May 10, 2010 | 09:39 PM
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#1 could be a lifter preload issue, does it sound like a sewing machine?

#2 tuning issue, need to modify the park/neutral/coastdown airflow
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Old May 10, 2010 | 09:44 PM
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The tapping could be a bad lifter, pumping out
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Old May 10, 2010 | 10:06 PM
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yes it sounds just like a sewing machine.
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Old May 10, 2010 | 10:53 PM
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Could be the wrong size push rods...I had that problem after installing a cam. After going back to a LS6 cam and the correct push rods the sawing machine sound went away. I agree that a good tuner will cure the the idle problem.

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Originally Posted by DONALD HALL
My tuner drilled a hole in the throttle plate this is NOT the recommened solution.
Just to clarify, Mr. Hall's PREVIOUS tuner drilled a hole in the t-body.
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Old May 11, 2010 | 12:30 AM
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Mine sounds like a sewing machine too, but I believe that is just normal. I also have a ported FAST and LTs which don't help haha.
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Sorry EnglandGreen, yes it was a previous tuner that did the hole. The current tune has the car running very well, thank you.

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Originally Posted by DONALD HALL
A fast tapping sound might be something in the valve train, loose rocker, lifter not pumped up. Normal noise with larger cams.
The dropping idle is common with cams, however a good tuner can tune it out using something called minium idle air flow tables. Ask SpinMonster he knows. My tuner drilled a hole in the throttle plate this is NOT the recommened solution.
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The idle is airflow table related and is easily fixed with a tweak.

The noise is from a lifter. What size pushrods do you have?
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I ordered push rods, but they didn't get delivered in time so I left the stock push rods in.
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I thought most big ls cams have a small base circle which might cause stock pushrods to be on the short side. Correct me if im wrong
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what size push rods do i need?
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Old May 11, 2010 | 09:35 PM
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you need to measure in order to get the right ones, probley shoot for the 7.425. but only a pushrod lenth checker will confirm.

goto a speed shop and grab one.

then pull up ls1tech and do a search on howto measure.
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Originally Posted by warwolf
what size push rods do i need?
The tapping sounds like a lifter issue. If you are running stock heads with your cam, then 7.4 pushrods will work fine. As far as the rpms dropping up and down, that is more likely a tune issue.
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Old May 12, 2010 | 10:43 PM
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The tapping sound started on one side of the engine and then seemed to move to the other side of the engine now. I drove the car today and the tapping was very loud at first and then it went away completely. After driving a few more miles, the tapping came back again.

If this is a lifter issue, would the tapping come and go?

Or is it maybe trash in the engine?
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Old May 19, 2010 | 11:12 PM
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how much would it cost to change the lifters in my car?
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Old May 20, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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I was under the impression the sewing machine noise was normal for big cams. The valves are opening and closing violently in comparison to a stock cam, and the springs are heavier(or should be).

Can't remember if you listed headers, but those will allow the noise to resonate right to the interior.

I have a moderate cam in my 08 C6, it makes a light sewing machine noise--but it sounds in harmony with the engine, nothing seems out of place.
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