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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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I have, a new to me, black 08 is in the garage. I bought it 300 miles from home so I got to drive it on all types of roads in Southern Idaho. The F1s are absolutely the worst tires I ever drove on. Of course the roads a big part of the problem. I am an old fart and only bought this car to tour and an occasional straight line blast. I have been using the search engine the last couple nights and made up my mine to buy a set of Nitto Invos. Unfortunately the rears are not available. I have been reading a lot of good reviews on the Kumho SPT. Most of the reviewers were not Vette drivers. I would be more impressed with reviews here. Thanks. Later! Frank
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 10:01 PM
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The original tires are run flats. If you stay with them you only have a few choices. If you go to non run flats you need to plan ahead on how you will handle a flat. I replaced my fronts with Firestone run flats and they are much quieter than the factory tires, in addition they ride better and are cheaper than the factory tires.
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Old Jun 11, 2010 | 10:54 PM
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There are many threads that discuss replacement tires and you can always check out the reviews on The Tire Rack, a forum supporting vendor.

I replaced the F1 Supercar tires 2 years ago with the Firestone Wide Oval RFT and can only report good things about them. Good price, quite, good traction wet or dry, and longer tread life.
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 01:13 AM
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I replaced the GY's on my wife's '02 with Michelin PS A/S Plus ZP several thousand miles ago and it feels like a different car. Better Ride with no road noise and great "rim protectors". 45,000 mile warranty. Took Very Little weight to balance. Very satisfied
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if you want inexpensive tires, keep going in the direction your discuss re kumho, nitto, etc. not saying they're bad. they're just not runflats.

if you feel, as well said above, you don't need or want runflats, there are many other choices out there besides the ones you mentioned, BFG, Michelin, Dunlop, Continental, Bridgestone, Hankook, etc.

go to tirerack.com and put in your car, and "view matching front and rear". then, read the reviews on the bottom of each tire shown, and the owner survey responses.

for this high performance, sports/grand touring car, you can buy anything from $125 on up. it's your decision on how it rides and handles. and lasts.

whatever you do, just remember there is a very good reason why tires are now described as "summer only", "all season", etc. if you take a summer-only tire and try accelerating the same way in 40 degree (or even 50) weather, you will launch yourself in a way you may not catch quickly.

good luck.
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 10:38 AM
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Default Put the Michelin ZP 45K Mile Warranty Run Flats-Great!

Feels like a new car. To my surprise, the dealer had the best price.
Out the door $1670.00

Thanks for the guys on the forum! I wanted a hopefully higher wear life than the original equipment.

These Michelins come with a 45K mile warranty. Better than Originals.
Hope they last that long.

These tires stick! Don't race it, but there is no slipping.

Good luck.

Charlie in Arizona
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by fnsblum
I have, a new to me, black 08 is in the garage. I bought it 300 miles from home so I got to drive it on all types of roads in Southern Idaho. The F1s are absolutely the worst tires I ever drove on. Of course the roads a big part of the problem. I am an old fart and only bought this car to tour and an occasional straight line blast. I have been using the search engine the last couple nights and made up my mine to buy a set of Nitto Invos. Unfortunately the rears are not available. I have been reading a lot of good reviews on the Kumho SPT. Most of the reviewers were not Vette drivers. I would be more impressed with reviews here. Thanks. Later! Frank
"Absolutely worst" in what sense? Are you unhappy with the grip, or with the ride?
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 05:27 PM
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They ride like an iron wheel wagon. On grooved concrete roads they drown out the stereo. My 04 had F1s when I test drove it. The dealer installed non-runflat Kumhos. All was well. Later! Frank
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Old Jun 14, 2010 | 10:28 AM
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I think the F1 tires ride good, I have the F55 suspension. I do like a firm tire, it allows the road condition and tire performance (slip or skid) to be felt by the driver. There is some noise but acceptable under normal conditions.
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Old Jun 14, 2010 | 11:34 AM
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Haven't had the car very long yet but the F1 Supercar tires seem okay to me.
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Old Jun 14, 2010 | 11:53 AM
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I have used both the Kuhmo SPT and Nitto Invo tires on my C6. The Invo tires have better traction. The SPT's aren't bad, and I'd consider them if I couldn't get the Invo's. You will notice a difference with either tire. Better traction, quiet, not as harsh because the sidewalls are not as stiff as the run flat tires.
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Old Jul 15, 2010 | 10:19 AM
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I have a 2008 convertible automatic with 12,500 miles. I am the original owner and have never driven the car hard. It is absolutely stock with the original F1 tires that still look like new. The tread isn't worn anywhere near the wear indicators. Everyone who rides in the car complains about the road noise. Even at slow speeds on smooth, new, asphalt, it is noisey. It seems to either be the rear tires or perhaps a bearing in the rear of the car. At this point, I don't know if it has always been like this or it just devoloped slowly. It is the kind of thing a person used to driving old cars might consider acceptable but it just doesn't seem right to me. Does anybody have a similar experience or ideas?
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Old Jul 15, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by furniss5
Feels like a new car. To my surprise, the dealer had the best price.
Out the door $1670.00

Thanks for the guys on the forum! I wanted a hopefully higher wear life than the original equipment.

These Michelins come with a 45K mile warranty. Better than Originals.
Hope they last that long.

These tires stick! Don't race it, but there is no slipping.

Good luck.

Charlie in Arizona
omg almost 1,700 for tires and your smiling
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Originally Posted by Steamroller
I have a 2008 convertible automatic with 12,500 miles. I am the original owner and have never driven the car hard. It is absolutely stock with the original F1 tires that still look like new. The tread isn't worn anywhere near the wear indicators. Everyone who rides in the car complains about the road noise. Even at slow speeds on smooth, new, asphalt, it is noisey. It seems to either be the rear tires or perhaps a bearing in the rear of the car. At this point, I don't know if it has always been like this or it just devoloped slowly. It is the kind of thing a person used to driving old cars might consider acceptable but it just doesn't seem right to me. Does anybody have a similar experience or ideas?
no, I don't have the same experience, but do have a similar car.... tires are made a little different from years gone by. as they age, even without miles, they get harder and they get noisier. mine did a little, but not objectionably to me and my ears.

your ears may differ. when, or if you decide to replace tires for noise, you will notice a reduction in noise. it is most likely temporary until the new tires get some miles or years on them.

the tires you have now are wide, stiff and have a particular compound. other tires may differ slightly.
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Old Jul 16, 2010 | 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Steamroller
I have a 2008 convertible automatic with 12,500 miles. I am the original owner and have never driven the car hard. It is absolutely stock with the original F1 tires that still look like new. The tread isn't worn anywhere near the wear indicators. Everyone who rides in the car complains about the road noise. Even at slow speeds on smooth, new, asphalt, it is noisey. It seems to either be the rear tires or perhaps a bearing in the rear of the car. At this point, I don't know if it has always been like this or it just devoloped slowly. It is the kind of thing a person used to driving old cars might consider acceptable but it just doesn't seem right to me. Does anybody have a similar experience or ideas?
When we bought our '02 same thing, tires. G.Y.'s had dry rot cracks and were noisy. The tires tread on the sides were scalloped, also called "cupping", high and low places. Flatten out your hand and run it along the sides of the tires tread. Anything uneven, that's it. Not much can be done except replace. I would get an alignment from a Good Shop, make sure the air presssure is 30psi Cold always. We put Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus ZP tires on, it feels like a different car. Performance, handling much better with No Noise. Very satisfied. Good luck.
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