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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 07:11 AM
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That pretty good for a 2.0 60' time. 12.3@117 I figure that would have been a considerable better 60' time
Well, hit the track tonight in my 2011 GT500 at New England Dragway. Temps were in the low 90s with fairly high humidity. First time to the track in about 3 1/2 years. Best run was my first as the track went away and wheel spin was an issue. Run details are below...

R/T .265
60' 2.045
330' 5.385
1/8 8.091
mph 92.16
1000 10.388
1/4 12.321
mph 117.24

Clearly this car is capable of an 11 second run stock in better weather. BTW, this is a base car, no Perf Pack. I had 1/2 tank of gas and ran 25psi in the tires. Unfortunately the scale was not open.
it doesn't even have the performance-pack with the better tires.

The first 2 passes with TC ON and moderatly spun all the way through 1st and 3/4 through 2nd and then a kick sideways into 3rd. Thoes were bad 13.2 and 13.4 @116 and 117mph and the then I guess some LS1 Camaro guy wanted to race cuz he was running low 13's. Haha the next pass I turned the TC and SB off and launched at 2500 and ripped off a 1.97, clean into 2nd, redline power shift into 3rd and 4th and I showed him and his friends what the GT500 was all about with a 12.396@118.38
This is a GT500 w/ the performance pack. Good 60', but the guy obviously isn't a pro, either.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 03:40 PM
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I think it's going to a take..... a LS3 w/some boost to handle that BEAST.
Don't worry, it does handle them. Quite well. 2 so far.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom's_03SVT
Simple put, wheel hop! I have had zero problem launching a 700HP car with an IRS (1.60 60' times all day long). My 600HP Camaro even with decent tires, springs, control arms, torque arm. The wheel hop was still there. I have driven 2007-2010 GT500 at the track quite a few times and even on DRs these cars hops like a motherf%cker. Maybe the new SVT suspension package fixed that.
The wheel hop has nothing to due w/the fact that it's a solid axle, and in fact solid axles are BETTER for drag racing. That is not new news. Have you noticeced the number of wheel hop issues w/IRS C6's? IRS CTS-V's? GTO'S? Mustang Cobras? If the GT has wheel hop, it's due to other flex issues....not b/c it happens to have a solid rear axle.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 05:05 PM
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Im not going to lie. The 5.0 mustang got my attention. We all remember the lx 5.0 mustangs of the past. I am not a fan of paying z06 money for a gt500 though. NO way! The Z is priven low 11 high 10s on tires.



I cannot believe a $30k car is obviously shaking up the big dogs (vettes). Im a car guy first myself but the longer you own a vette the more biast you become.

Cant wait to see what the vette will do next.

Gt500s can take the markup and shove it. On the 5.0 though, great job!


Sorry Vete bros, gotta keep it real

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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 05:47 PM
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I cannot believe a $30k car is obviously shaking up the big dogs (vettes). Im a car guy first myself but the longer you own a vette the more biast you become.

Gt500s can take the markup and shove it. On tye 5.0 though, grea job


Sorry Vete bros, gotta keep it real
The GT is not going to "shake any big dogs up". Some of us are just giving due respect to 550hp GT 500 and of course you won't buy that for $30K...maybe half of one.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 06:11 PM
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The GT is not going to "shake any big dogs up". Some of us are just giving due respect to 550hp GT 500
Whether they're faster or not, I'm giving due respect to both the new GT and the new GT500, great performance cars (and like the Corvette, great American icons as well) no matter how ya slice it.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 06:54 PM
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Whether they're faster or not, I'm giving due respect to both the new GT and the new GT500, great performance cars (and like the Corvette, great American icons as well) no matter how ya slice it.
I agree.


Anyone driven both a c6 and a cobra or new gt? How does the bottom end tq feel on them compared to our vettes? I may drive one.

How much was a gear change on a stang again? Gotta love that


I know 30k will only get about half a cobra thats my problem with it. Even the 500hp ones are still almost 40k.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
Whether they're faster or not, I'm giving due respect to both the new GT and the new GT500, great performance cars (and like the Corvette, great American icons as well) no matter how ya slice it.
Give them all the respect you want, but bottom line is they are not on the same level as the Corvette. End of story.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 07:30 PM
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Give them all the respect you want, but bottom line is they are not on the same level as the Corvette. End of story.
And this is exactly why we can't drive down the highway without being "challenged" by a Mustang.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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And this is exactly why we can't drive down the highway without being "challenged" by a Mustang.
and its a great feeling everytime i smoke one
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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[QUOTE=Tom400CFI;1574969303]The wheel hop has nothing to due w/the fact that it's a solid axle, and in fact solid axles are BETTER for drag racing. That is not new news. Have you noticeced the number of wheel hop issues w/IRS C6's? IRS CTS-V's? GTO'S? Mustang Cobras? If the GT has wheel hop, it's due to other flex issues....not b/c it happens to have a solid rear axle.[/QU OTE]

I guess we can agree to disagree...

its the supporting suspension parts that make it hard to get power to the ground with solid axle and IRS cars....believe me I get it.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SgtRod
I agree.


Anyone driven both a c6 and a cobra or new gt? How does the bottom end tq feel on them compared to our vettes? I may drive one.

How much was a gear change on a stang again? Gotta love that


I know 30k will only get about half a cobra thats my problem with it. Even the 500hp ones are still almost 40k.
I just bought an '11 GT500 with the Performance package...3.73 gears, G2 Supercar tires...red with white stripes. Before I bought it, I test drove a new GS 6 speed. The Shelby feels faster, sounds faster and flat out, is a faster car...at least comparing the two I drove. And trust me, I know how to drive these cars. My Dad has an '06 Z06. Bone stock that car is a beast and would definitely beat the Shelby. The Shelby feels every bit as fast as my '03 Viper. As a comparison, a buddy of mine has an '09 GT500. It's really not even fair comparing the '09 with the '11. The new one's are waaaayyy better in every aspect. His '09 doesn't feel that much quicker than the '09 370Z I briefly had. Which is pretty pathetic. So you guys quoting this or that about the '07 to '09 Shelby's you drove, stop. Because this topic is about the '11 which is a far far superior car to the older ones. In the right hands, the '11 is an easy 11 second car.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JLinNY
Give them all the respect you want, but bottom line is they are not on the same level as the Corvette. End of story.

Oh brother...open your mind dude...jesus, the Corvette is a great car but there are other cars out there just as good. I love Corvettes just as much as the next guy...but I'm a car guy first and you have to give credit where credit is due. Ford hit the nail on the head with this GT500 this year.
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Nat04Z06
Oh brother...open your mind dude...jesus, the Corvette is a great car but there are other cars out there just as good. I love Corvettes just as much as the next guy...but I'm a car guy first and you have to give credit where credit is due. Ford hit the nail on the head with this GT500 this year.
I've had 2 mustangs and my '00 GT is still my DD. I really like the car and it is pretty quick, very light (cloth interior, no stereo upgrades). I've modded the thing and I'm sure I could pull a low 13 second pass in it with some practice (it's got gears, alum drive shaft, plenum, TB, etc).

If I was all about drag racing I'd probably get a '11 GT and put gears and a 125 shot on it and I'm sure with DRs it would fly down the strip. I like mustangs!..... But I would NEVER pay $50k for one. My $.02
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Nat04Z06
Oh brother...open your mind dude...jesus, the Corvette is a great car but there are other cars out there just as good. I love Corvettes just as much as the next guy...but I'm a car guy first and you have to give credit where credit is due. Ford hit the nail on the head with this GT500 this year.
Except that the transmission sucks regarding the 1-2 shift. LOTS! of issues with that.
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Originally Posted by JLinNY
Give them all the respect you want, but bottom line is they are not on the same level as the Corvette. End of story.
You race your Vette or just polish it? I've seen quite a few stangs at the track that are not only the same level but beyond.
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You race your Vette or just polish it? I've seen quite a few stangs at the track that are not only the same level but beyond.
Going straight, right?

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This is almost a post that should be on the Camaro (no that I'm putting them down) message forum. The days of looking for for a street race are done 4 me. Corvette owners tend to be more laid back and I drive slow so that you can enjoy my ride If I worried about the teenager driving the mustang I would have bought a different ride. People are buing the Mustang for speed while Vette owners want to be recognized...
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Originally Posted by Nat04Z06
The Shelby feels faster, sounds faster and flat out, is a faster car...at least comparing the two I drove. And trust me, I know how to drive these cars. My Dad has an '06 Z06. Bone stock that car is a beast and would definitely beat the Shelby. The Shelby feels every bit as fast as my '03 Viper. As a comparison, a buddy of mine has an '09 GT500. His '09 doesn't feel that much quicker than the '09 370Z I briefly had. So you guys quoting this or that about the '07 to '09 Shelby's you drove, stop. Because this topic is about the '11 which is a far far superior car to the older ones.
Uh-oh. We have one, SOTP comparo here folks. Some real scientific data for you all!


Originally Posted by Nat04Z06
In the right hands, the '11 is an easy 11 second car.
And so is the LS3. As has been stated in this thread already (and backed up w/actual objective DATA) the two cars in stock form area a good match, a good race, winner going to the better driver most likely.
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Look at it this way, What ever you do to a LS3, you can do to a 5.0, but 2 things, the LS3 will always have the weight and aero d advantage.
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