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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Iceman3K15
comparing ANY base vette....vert, Z51 or GS....to the Z06 is laughable. There is no comparison. Guess what, I do a cam/longtubes/intake/tune to the new 2011 Mustang GT to get it to go fast in the 1/4, guess we should compare it to the Z06 too
WTF ever! So it sounds to me as if you're saying the Z06 is just incomparable?? If so, why does every auto rag or auto enthusiast website do comparisons? You really should lay off the cough syrup cause you're laughable!
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver05GTO
Right, that's why I directed my comments to your post about buying a new 2011 and throwing a cam/headers etc at it.

Oh I modded my 07 coupe enough to realize it wasn't for me and quickly reversed track before dumping even more money into the car knowing all along it wasn't ever going to be a Z06 and the Z06 is what i really wanted to own one day.....

Zero driveability issues is big claim....can you lug around at 1k rpms nice and smooth? Any problems in 6th gear? Most cammed cars don't like low rpm thus it's lost driveability in my book.......that's why even a stock Z06 is such a great package, I can let it loose when there's a chance or just drive it nice and leisurely in 5th/6th gear @ 1k rpms getting 25-30mpg

Anyways I'm glad your enjoying your vette, I'm enjoying my Z06 and that's all that really matters
I don't suggest nor personally drive my car at 1,000rpms ever anyway so that's a non factor in my mind. Mine drives 98% like stock except for the bump of the cam at 800rpm while idling. No problems in 5th or 6th whatsoever either. If one does not take the time nor effort to tune the ECM/motor properly after a cam install it can and will be a P.I.T.A. to some. Sounds as if your issues were around tuning or your expectations we're skewed after the mods.

You have no argument from me that a Z06 is a great package out of the box. I think they are monsters!

Happy motorin' !!
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmyz28
WTF ever! So it sounds to me as if you're saying the Z06 is just incomparable?? If so, why does every auto rag or auto enthusiast website do comparisons? You really should lay off the cough syrup cause you're laughable!
Not saying the Z06 is incomparable. But the cars it compares to are not base C6's with bolt ons
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 06:20 PM
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmyz28
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Z51 22.2 5.8 secs behind ZR1
Z06 17.3 0.9 secs behind ZR1
ZR1 16.4 fastest

Those are the hard numbers without the "imo"
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 09:29 PM
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Just drive e'm both. then decide
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 04:16 AM
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Keeping it stock as a rock. Just hate creaks and rattles is all. The Z06 is 15% stiffer than the coupe according to GM. I wondered if it really showed. I rode in a C6 'vert and it felt like crap. Creaks, rattles, horrible cowl-shake. Real turn-off. I have never been in a car that floppy except for a 'vert 2003 mustang.

Hence why I discounted the coupe. However, I looked at one today and the sales rep took the roof panel off and it LOOKS well tied in, plus it has that "hoop". Thus my question.
My car (coupe) has zero cracks, creaks or rattles. Im not sure what cars you've been in but the days of the weak chassis 1979 trnas-ams with T-tops squeaking are over.

The hoop you refer to is likely the halo and yes it adds to rigity. I would go for a few more rides in coupes before classifying them all as rattle cans. I've likely worked on 100 of them and none are falling apart or making noises.

If you dont need the removeable roof then get a Z06. Its a great car and its way faster than a base unmodded coupe.
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SpinMonster
My car (coupe) has zero cracks, creaks or rattles. Im not sure what cars you've been in but the days of the weak chassis 1979 trnas-ams with T-tops squeaking are over.

The hoop you refer to is likely the halo and yes it adds to rigity. I would go for a few more rides in coupes before classifying them all as rattle cans. I've likely worked on 100 of them and none are falling apart or making noises.

If you dont need the removeable roof then get a Z06. Its a great car and its way faster than a base unmodded coupe.
Same here, a 2005 coupe, if you don't tell your passengers that the roof can be removed they wouldn't even know it wasn't a fixed roof.
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
Must not have ridden in a lot of cars. There are plenty that have more cowl shake than a C5/C6 Vert. Even though the 97 was only a coupe the chassis design was based on a Vert to begin with. If you read the book "All Corvettes are Red" you can get an idea how GM came up with one of the stiffest chassis designs in the industry.

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I have just found more modern cars, like the 370Z, etc have a solid feel while the 'vettes I have ridden in flex and sqeak where the roof joins the removable panel or the 'vert top latches. The torsional rigidity of the Corvette is very low, a touch under 12,000 nm/degrees for the 'vert. Pretty floppy when you consider a 2005 mustang hard-top is over 20,000 nm/deg.

Again, my experience is limited to a few rides in C5/6's as well as other cars to compare them to.

I think the Z06 is where I need to be. A removable roof doesn't excite me.
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A week or 2 ago wifey & I had the roof off. She says, "man it's hot, why do people want the sun beating on them?" I'm thinking, after 2 vette coupes she now comes to this revelation?? Well, I for one, if I could afford it, get a ZO6 in a heartbeat! As great as my coupes have been, nothing (certainly not a 370Z ) comes close to a Z for the bang for the buck! Not even the ZR1..
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The best bang for the buck is a grand sport with an ECS supercharger and you can keep the roof on if its too hot out. They come with a/c.
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Originally Posted by SpinMonster
The best bang for the buck is a grand sport with an ECS supercharger and you can keep the roof on if its too hot out. They come with a/c.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by spinmonster
my car (coupe) has zero cracks, creaks or rattles. Im not sure what cars you've been in but the days of the weak chassis 1979 trnas-ams with t-tops squeaking are over.

The hoop you refer to is likely the halo and yes it adds to rigity. I would go for a few more rides in coupes before classifying them all as rattle cans. I've likely worked on 100 of them and none are falling apart or making noises.

If you dont need the removeable roof then get a z06. Its a great car and its way faster than a base unmodded coupe.
good comment!
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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The best bang for the buck is a 79' Trans Am w/o t-tops and the T/A-6.6 and a jet engine on the roof. Trust me, it flys.
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Originally Posted by SpinMonster
The best bang for the buck is a grand sport with an ECS supercharger and you can keep the roof on if its too hot out. They come with a/c.
I cannot afford to replace an engine on my dime while paying the note on a $55K car. It's only a good bang for the buck if you are looking at paper and dyno numbers.
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You need to drive both cars and see what is right for you. Listening to people make comments that make them feel better about their purchase being the "right" car is not going to help you decide for your self.

Personally I went with a Z, got it used and for 40K nothing comes close to bang for buck. However, the Z is not for everyone. Harsher ride, more expensive to maintain, lots of cabin noise due to low amounts of sound deadening material ect....

I have driven a few C6 coupes and they are also great cars. However, everyone I have driven does squeak at the roof joints. Not so much under normal driving, more so if you try and go up steep driveways at an angle, or hit a large pothole ect...

Good luck with your purchase
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Originally Posted by 69dodgecharger
You need to drive both cars and see what is right for you. Listening to people make comments that make them feel better about their purchase being the "right" car is not going to help you decide for your self.

Personally I went with a Z, got it used and for 40K nothing comes close to bang for buck. However, the Z is not for everyone. Harsher ride, more expensive to maintain, lots of cabin noise due to low amounts of sound deadening material ect....

I have driven a few C6 coupes and they are also great cars. However, everyone I have driven does squeak at the roof joints. Not so much under normal driving, more so if you try and go up steep driveways at an angle, or hit a large pothole ect...

Good luck with your purchase
With so many cars that don't sqeak, I couldn't bring myself to spend this kind of money on one that does. That would drive me crazy. Also, the Z is only 10K more than a 3LT GS. HUD is mandatory, it's what sets the 'vette apart from other cars in its class.
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LOL@ thinking the z06 has ANY superior build quality over a coupe.. Seriously.. i guess some ppl are really smoking the z06 magic pipe.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteLightning_
LOL@ thinking the z06 has ANY superior build quality over a coupe.. Seriously.. i guess some ppl are really smoking the z06 magic pipe.
I am not planning on buying a GM for build quality, that's a joke, but a fixed roof cannot sqeak.
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