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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 10:24 AM
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I did finish me ring and pinion so I’m replacing if with new ring and pinion. I’m living in Iceland so there is non GM dealer in Iceland. I did purchase 4 cares of special tools to du this job and help through GM web side profiting all speck and info hove to do this. We have now done this be the book and those photos are showing the result. The people helping me witch are experts in dialing on gears in normal diff. According to those photos I’m told that the ring and pinion are beryl making marks and there for way of. Is there anyone that can look at this and assist me? The free play was 0,12 witch is nor than it should be witch is max 0,6.

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Wish I could help but ring/pinion shimming and matings are out of my league. Good luck bump for you. Someone can help you.
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Any comment on those photos?
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Yea you have major issues. Either two things your ring and pinion are not touching each other which explains why there is not no print or you are not doing it correctly. In order to get the "pattern" you need to spin the pinion and put resistance on the ring gear so that you can get the grease to imprint the pattern. There are shims and a special tool required to get the correct backlash and preload. If you don't have these then you are pretty much wasting your time and money. I don't mean to sound harsh, but the reality is those diffs require certain tools and skill set, if you don't have at least the tools, then that diff will come apart. You should have just bought a new diff from the dealer and been done with it.
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The wipe pattern looks good on some of the teeth which is a function of pinion depth. .012 is too slopy and you should try to get the lash to about
.005 to .007 . You have the tools and only the best of shops are doing it.
Most of us just change out the pumpkin. Seems like a .004 shim behind the ring gear will do it. I used to do them but it's been a while but the basics
are the same. Good luck.
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Yea you have major issues. Either two things your ring and pinion are not touching each other which explains why there is not no print or you are not doing it correctly. In order to get the "pattern" you need to spin the pinion and put resistance on the ring gear so that you can get the grease to imprint the pattern. There are shims and a special tool required to get the correct backlash and preload. If you don't have these then you are pretty much wasting your time and money. I don't mean to sound harsh, but the reality is those diffs require certain tools and skill set, if you don't have at least the tools, then that diff will come apart. You should have just bought a new diff from the dealer and been done with it.
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Thank you for you replies.

I have all the special tools for this job and how to do it from GM. But the shop witch is helping me is not used to work on Corvette C6 diff so all input is well taken. Since I’m not the expert it slimed strange to me be going be the book and having all the special tools needed and not getting any foot print! To me ether it was spot on or way off !! To me if you go be the book you should be spot on, but what about the foot print. Me diff specialist told me it is so much way of and not even touching!! So the question is for those C6 diff if they are correctly dial in will the foot print look same as any other regular diff?

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The wipe pattern looks good on some of the teeth which is a function of pinion depth. .012 is too slopy and you should try to get the lash to about
.005 to .007 . You have the tools and only the best of shops are doing it.
Most of us just change out the pumpkin. Seems like a .004 shim behind the ring gear will do it. I used to do them but it's been a while but the basics
are the same. Good luck.
Thank you for you replies.

I hope you are correct and I only need to deal with the lash.
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If the ring gear is not touching the pinion,I must ask are you sure you have the correct gear set? Base gears are not the same as Z06 gear sets, both come in 3.42 ratios though.

Looking back at the pics again it appears you have the correct gear set. First you need to set pinion depth, work the carrier to set proper backlash,then run the pattern. If the pattern is not right make changes to achieve the proper pattern.

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You are not applying enough resistance when you do your pattern, when you do it right you will see a very clear pattern. Yes there have been lots of excuses over the years about patterns and what they are supposed to look like, follow your gut on the old stuff, that is the pattern I go after. I want to see a nice oval pattern in that gear. The back lash is important and if you have the correct tools you will get it there. Also the preload which is about .004, you need to hit that on the head and there is a tool for you to properly set this up with the correct shim. If you feel don't feel good about what they are doing, you can ship it to me and I will do it.
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