Texas Speed engine building questions??
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Racer
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From: Diamondhead Mississippi
Texas Speed engine building questions??
I plan on ordering a 402 complete engine from Texas speed in late January mid February.
Pretty much I have never heard anything bad about them, but I would like to make sure they do good work before I place an order.
Pretty much I have never heard anything bad about them, but I would like to make sure they do good work before I place an order.
Safety Car
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I have their aluminum 402 w/their MS3 cam. 15 HPDE track days and zero issues over the past 2 years. I wouldn't hesitate to get another from them. They do so many and they seem to know what their doing, plus their customer support is pretty solid. My only regret is I didn't do the 427 instead of the 402
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Safety Car
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Don't have 1/4 times, but when road racing, during a typical track day, usually 4 30 min sessions, 12 - 15 laps. At VIR and RA you get and average of 50 40 - 153 mph bursts a day. Run that over 2 seasons it is a lot. Motor still going strong.
Safety Car
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That's a lot of variables to hold constant to get those comparisons. Cubes, heads, cam, and compression before considering external factors such as headers, gears, tires, FI or not, etc.
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I know people with TSP motors and they were pleased with the result.
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St. Jude Donor '10-'11-'12
No, its not a dis at all. Builders are all different. Thats a simple fact and its not disrespectful to anyone. TSP would say the same. They are who they are just as LPE is who they are just as LME is they are just as HKE is who they are just as Golen is who they are etc.
To explain things beyond that would not be proper so I'll leave it at that but your are absolutely wrong about everything you said. All builders are different and so is the end product.
To explain things beyond that would not be proper so I'll leave it at that but your are absolutely wrong about everything you said. All builders are different and so is the end product.
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The fact that you sell a competing product and came into a thread about another sponsor and had to preface your remarks, indicates that you know its a back-handed slap.
I didn't say that there weren't differences. The person held the build the same, which I understood to be the parts purchased (e.g. brand of pistons, type of rings, rod bolts, etc). That still leaves builder skill and the issue remains whether the person who posted that comment, or the average buyer for that matter, would be able to see or benefit from any difference.
All builders are different and so is the end product.
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Racer
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I didn't make this thread to get sold on somebody elses stuff or have people swing purses.. I only have one question and that is if Texas Speed is a shop worth getting to build an engine that I want to make decent power and hold up to time/miles. The build is a 402, I'm not using N02 or boost or any power adder just N/A power. MANY people and several building shops referred me to Texas Speed but I like to triple and quadruple check things before I drop thousands of dollars on them.
Any posts that will help make my decision will be EXTREMELY helpful and greatly appreciated.
Any posts that will help make my decision will be EXTREMELY helpful and greatly appreciated.
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Sorry for going off topic, as previously noted I had friends with TSP motors who drag raced their cars with no problems. They would be on my list if I were in the market for a motor.
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Durability is a little easier to assess (e.g. track seasons). For $2k i'd need more than .1 to justify it on 1/4 mile times.
That's a lot of variables to hold constant to get those comparisons. Cubes, heads, cam, and compression before considering external factors such as headers, gears, tires, FI or not, etc.
That's a lot of variables to hold constant to get those comparisons. Cubes, heads, cam, and compression before considering external factors such as headers, gears, tires, FI or not, etc.
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I would put our motors up against anyone for what you are looking to do. No, we don't build a ton of 2500+ HP motors. Do I think we can do it? I know we can. Most of our engines end up in guys cars that go out and beat the crap out of them on a daily basis. We have engines in everything from cruisers, daily drivers, weekend track cars, and all out racecars that see very little run time. In each applications our engines perform on par with the best engines out there. The fact that we have a LOT of engines in cars all over the world is a testament to that. Each one has the same attention to detail as any other high performance engine out there. I don't need to talk down another companies products. Ours reputation speaks for itself. If anyone has any questions or concerns about any of our products I encourage them to call and talk to any TSP sales rep and we will get you setup with any information you need!
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All engine "builders" are not even close to the same. There are hacks, decent shops and the premier shops. Some use poorly trained monkeys to assemble parts that may or may not be right and some actually have the skills to do it right. In terms of engines, you really do get what you pay for and $2k can make all the difference in the world.
That is why I went with Katech for the build in our C6Z this time
Anybody can PM me for for my experience(s) regarding the OP's question. I can not post it in the open forum due to site rules, but PM's are OK if I am asked the specific question.
That is why I went with Katech for the build in our C6Z this time
Anybody can PM me for for my experience(s) regarding the OP's question. I can not post it in the open forum due to site rules, but PM's are OK if I am asked the specific question.
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St. Jude Donor '08
I didn't make this thread to get sold on somebody elses stuff or have people swing purses.. I only have one question and that is if Texas Speed is a shop worth getting to build an engine that I want to make decent power and hold up to time/miles. The build is a 402, I'm not using N02 or boost or any power adder just N/A power. MANY people and several building shops referred me to Texas Speed but I like to triple and quadruple check things before I drop thousands of dollars on them.
Any posts that will help make my decision will be EXTREMELY helpful and greatly appreciated.
Any posts that will help make my decision will be EXTREMELY helpful and greatly appreciated.
Even as a vendor, I do not agree with it. I feel that the members should be able to post good or bad about any vendor. I know that if half the crap I hear about via PMs and phone calls could be openly posted, my business would go up
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If you can use plastigage, a ring filer, and a torque wrench you can build your own engine as long as you have a local machine shop you can trust to do the cutting and balancing.....
There is no black magic or rocket science involved in assembling an engine.
Ive never seen a TSP engine in person but if I was in the market of buying a engine that is already assembled instead of doing it myself I would have no woes about purchaseing one through them. There reputation in the LS engine series community speaks for itself, i have never heard anything but good things about TSP's products or there customer service.
There is no black magic or rocket science involved in assembling an engine.
Ive never seen a TSP engine in person but if I was in the market of buying a engine that is already assembled instead of doing it myself I would have no woes about purchaseing one through them. There reputation in the LS engine series community speaks for itself, i have never heard anything but good things about TSP's products or there customer service.
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If you can use plastigage, a ring filer, and a torque wrench you can build your own engine as long as you have a local machine shop you can trust to do the cutting and balancing.....
There is no black magic or rocket science involved in assembling an engine.
Ive never seen a TSP engine in person but if I was in the market of buying a engine that is already assembled instead of doing it myself I would have no woes about purchaseing one through them. There reputation in the LS engine series community speaks for itself, i have never heard anything but good things about TSP's products or there customer service.
There is no black magic or rocket science involved in assembling an engine.
Ive never seen a TSP engine in person but if I was in the market of buying a engine that is already assembled instead of doing it myself I would have no woes about purchaseing one through them. There reputation in the LS engine series community speaks for itself, i have never heard anything but good things about TSP's products or there customer service.
cleanliness is next to godliness when building long lasting motors and there is a lot of diferent techniques involved, or all motors would be the same, and they clearly are not
