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i am trying to learn if anyone has broken the diff case on a 2005 A4 with a 3600 stall and 305/30/18 tires. want to change the ring and pinion to a 3.73, but i want the use the stock case. reason why is i don't want to pay an additional 550.00 for an adapter plate to upgrade the case. any input is welcome. thanks, cranky
It's not quite as common in the automatics as it is in the manuals but it has still happened.
If I were staying with the 3.15s/2.73s and at stock/near stock power levels I would probably just keep the '05 case but if doing gears/rebuilding the rear anyway, I would take the plunge and upgrade the case to one of the newer ones as well. It's certainly not a cheap endeavor (that adapter plate you speak of plus a new case and possibly side covers too) but it can also help avoid breaking at/oiling down the track and worse yet, possibly taking out your transmission as well while doing so.
It's not quite as common in the automatics as it is in the manuals but it has still happened.
If I were staying with the 3.15s/2.73s and at stock/near stock power levels I would probably just keep the '05 case but if doing gears/rebuilding the rear anyway, I would take the plunge and upgrade the case to one of the newer ones as well. It's certainly not a cheap endeavor (that adapter plate you speak of plus a new case and possibly side covers too) but it can also help avoid breaking at/oiling down the track and worse yet, possibly taking out your transmission as well while doing so.
thanks for the input. i am not stock. making 516 hp at the crank. have been 7.45 in the 1/8 and 11.71 in the 1/4. ran about 60 passes last year and did not break it. have 3.15 gears. guess i will wait and save up some more money........and do it right.
thanks for the input. i am not stock. making 516 hp at the crank. have been 7.45 in the 1/8 and 11.71 in the 1/4. ran about 60 passes last year and did not break it. have 3.15 gears. guess i will wait and save up some more money........and do it right.
Oh ok, so you are making enough power to do some damage. Dennis's ('dennis50nj') car, also an '05 automatic, made it well into the 10s on the '05 rear (with properly installed 3.73s) so you probably have some time before you need to worry, unless you wheel hop it bad on one pass or something of course. But with those low 1.4x sixty foots his eventually did let go and he had to spend the extra money upgrading it anyway so it might be best (cheaper) to do it all at once.
Oh ok, so you are making enough power to do some damage. Dennis's ('dennis50nj') car, also an '05 automatic, made it well into the 10s on the '05 rear (with properly installed 3.73s) so you probably have some time before you need to worry, unless you wheel hop it bad on one pass or something of course. But with those low 1.4x sixty foots his eventually did let go and he had to spend the extra money upgrading it anyway so it might be best (cheaper) to do it all at once.
haven't had any wheel hop problems so far. my 60' times are a best of 1.65. i want to put 3.73's in it to get it to peak in the traps. i don't plan on making any more hp in the future. have too much money in mods now...lol..........
haven't had any wheel hop problems so far. my 60' times are a best of 1.65. i want to put 3.73's in it to get it to peak in the traps. i don't plan on making any more hp in the future. have too much money in mods now...lol..........
You might actually be ok putting 3.73s in the current carrier then as Dennis's car had numerous 1.5 sixty foots and 10 second passes on it without failure.
Just got to be careful with the water box, pressures, burnouts and maintaining/changing the fluid.
You might actually be ok putting 3.73s in the current carrier then as Dennis's car had numerous 1.5 sixty foots and 10 second passes on it without failure.
Just got to be careful with the water box, pressures, burnouts and maintaining/changing the fluid.
The cheapest route if you are concerned is to convert to a C5 rear. Their cores are 1/4 the price of a 2006+ core. Plus you have to buy the trans adapter.
If you convert to a C5 rear, you can sell your working C6 rear as a core to someone and not throw that money away like you would be doing if you cracked the case.
Seems mostly manuals are breaking though, mine broke on my 301'st run, though some guys have broken on the street. Wheel hopping is definitely a bad thing.
Here's a lot of info on the conversion if you are interested. Sparo2 is pretty much an expert now, he's done a bunch.
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Originally Posted by cranky
thanks for the input. i am not stock. making 516 hp at the crank. have been 7.45 in the 1/8 and 11.71 in the 1/4. ran about 60 passes last year and did not break it. have 3.15 gears. guess i will wait and save up some more money........and do it right.
You will be fine with the 3.73s. I have a 05 with 3.15 gears and 2800 stall converter with MT 17 inch DRs. My stock rear has many, many passes down the quarter with a best of 11.36. My car will normally run 11.5s
The key as Marc said is to watch the water box & etc. I would add some insurance by replacing the shocks with bilsteins to be on the safe side. Dennis car leaves a bit harder than mine and has many many more faster passes. Wheel hop will destroy the rear as long as you control it you will be fine.