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Old 01-30-2011, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TrenAman
just messing with you
I am going to be orginzing a A6 shootout this year, or at least trying to. I am going to see what tranny shops want to put up some money, and throw there hat in the ring. I am even considering putting a little money into the pot myself.

I am thinking las vegas, even though it is a 1600 mile hall for me, there will be NO excuses why those magic cali cars cant come and put up or shut up then.
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Originally Posted by craftfox
I am going to be orginzing a A6 shootout this year, or at least trying to. I am going to see what tranny shops want to put up some money, and throw there hat in the ring. I am even considering putting a little money into the pot myself.

I am thinking las vegas, even though it is a 1600 mile hall for me, there will be NO excuses why those magic cali cars cant come and put up or shut up then.
Well, I am in the middle of a A4 conversion from my A6.. they just cannot hang with serious HP.. yet... Hope you guys have fun!
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Old 01-30-2011, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TrenAman
Well, I am in the middle of a A4 conversion from my A6.. they just cannot hang with serious HP.. yet... Hope you guys have fun!
I am pretty sure i know alll about your deal. I hope it all works out for you in the end. If your going with rodneys 4l65 swap, you cant go wrong. I am going to do it eventually, but i decided since i got the rest of the car finally fixed, I wanted to see just how fast a 6l80 trans would go, and not be replaced after every pass. so far, since the last rebuild, mine has made hundreds of passes and about 3000 street miles, at 3500+#s and 600 or so rwhp. I wish i could get my car down to 3000 pounds, the thing would last forever .
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Old 01-30-2011, 10:02 PM
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Just as a starting point for reference, I gained .3 ET with a 3200 Yank converter for about $800 self installed and retained the stock 2.56 gear. A friend spent slightly over $2000 including installation for a 3.42 gear with his stock converter and gained .1 ET. Just facts and no opinion.
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i only picked up about .15 et with the gear swap
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My car would go 1.46 1.49 with 3.42s
I have decided that i like my trans, and it likes me not shifting it into 4th gear, makeing 600rwhp, as the clutch pack for 4-5-6 is tiny.
I put 2.73 out of a 08 in it, and guess what, my 60's, 1.44-1.48, my mph is 1-2 higher, I am guessing because there is no wasted shift time. and the car runs at a lower rpm on the highway.

with the right converter, and tune, 3.42 are not needed. the car was alot more violent on the 3.42s but not any faster.
I still have my 2.56s as well and have hit a 1.52 sixty foot and 10.9s at over 125mph with only 393rwhp. While logic dictates that 3.42s should excel in almost every A6 application, I too and am not yet thoroughly convinced that they are truly needed either. Maybe they make a whole lot of difference on the street but I still need to see solid (and proven) track improvements before I drop that kind of ca$h.






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i know no one here bought there vette for the mpg.
Well, actually.
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Old 01-30-2011, 10:11 PM
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I still have my 2.56s as well and have hit a 1.52 sixty foot and 10.9s at over 125mph with only 393rwhp. While logic dictates that 3.42s should excel in almost every A6 application, I too and am not yet thoroughly convinced that they are truly needed either. Maybe they make a whole lot of difference on the street but I still need to see solid (and proven) track improvements before I drop that kind of ca$h.






Well, actually.
i could care less about mpg, but my 440 still gets 26-27 mpg on the highway.
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Old 01-30-2011, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TrenAman
still waiting on the bill for repairs needed that was caused by a A6 vendor, so not going to bash anyone on what they did bottoming my car out very hard.. they were very professional and showed me what they did upfront. but lets just say I am not going to stick with there product for reasons other than that statement.. and I believe they have a good product but not good for 900rwhp ppl.. thye do not want to warranty me every other week like I want to get my car worked on every other week

OP.. 3,42's and a stall on a street car just feels sick on a a6.. you will def not regret it..
YIKES! good luck with the car getting fixed.
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Old 01-31-2011, 06:54 AM
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whats this a6 shootout? My car went 9.8's with a stock motor and trans with a little bit of spray. I currently have a nice size stroker motor with more spray on it. mid to low 9's shouldnt be a problem once everything is dialed in
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Old 01-31-2011, 08:45 AM
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Dumb question......sorry, but wanted to ask:

Does 1st gear become unusable/way too short with 3.42?

The "fun as heck on the street" comments are getting to me a bit......
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Old 01-31-2011, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by scottycards
Dumb question......sorry, but wanted to ask:

Does 1st gear become unusable/way too short with 3.42?

The "fun as heck on the street" comments are getting to me a bit......
with run flats.. yes
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Originally Posted by TrenAman
with run flats.. yes
Not a problem. Only other concern is top speed- I currently run around 4600rpm at 168mph in 5th, so I've gotta figure out where I'd be in 6th at the same speed. 168 is my max speed at some events I run each year, and for the durations we run, I can't feel comfortable above 5000.

Great thread. I can live with 2nd gear starts.....

Thanks for the info.
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Originally Posted by craftfox
well, i am not even going to read the rest of this thread, I will just give you real world numbers.

My car would go 1.46 1.49 with 3.42s
I have decided that i like my trans, and it likes me not shifting it into 4th gear, makeing 600rwhp, as the clutch pack for 4-5-6 is tiny.
I put 2.73 out of a 08 in it, and guess what, my 60's, 1.44-1.48, my mph is 1-2 higher, I am guessing because there is no wasted shift time. and the car runs at a lower rpm on the highway.

with the right converter, and tune, 3.42 are not needed. the car was alot more violent on the 3.42s but not any faster.

there is something else you need to look at. Guys with BIG hp, dont use gear, they let the power do the work for them. Now that being said, you cant compare our transmission to older trannies because of the gearing IN the trans. thats why a 3.42 is from what i have seen, equal to a 4.10- or so (estimate).

My car has been as fast as all but ONE a6 car on here, and I have ran both gears, and i say 3.42s feel neat on the street, but would not recomend them to anyone, 3.15s are about the max i recommend.

keep your car out of 4th, your trans will thank you for it.
Well said...and also it should be noted that 2.73's are faster than 3.42's from a roll in a street race with a good converter in both setups. Lower gears FEEL a lot faster but with a TC in both setups they aren't. This is why I am keeping my 2.73 gears in my 10' GS and putting in a Yank 3200 with a cam and all the bolt-ons. As you stated it is all about letting the motor do the work for you
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:34 PM
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I have 3:15's with a Yank 3600.
It's awesome but a car with 2:56 or 2:73's and the same rwhp will pull on me after 75-80 mph.
3:15's are a blast around town and the gears take the car out of the drone zone on the fwy.
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3.42 gears and 2800 stall on my A6. Fun times.
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Old 01-31-2011, 05:24 PM
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Interesting information here.
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I understand this thread is based around the A6 but I'm curious if the opinions and experiences are different for A4 (3.42) owners?

I'm a manual car so asking purely as informative information.
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Old 01-31-2011, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LEAVINU
I understand this thread is based around the A6 but I'm curious if the opinions and experiences are different for A4 (3.42) owners?

I'm a manual car so asking purely as informative information.
just about any and all onversations based around a a6, are completely irrelevent (spellcheck?) to a a4. totally different gearing in the trans.
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Originally Posted by LEAVINU
I understand this thread is based around the A6 but I'm curious if the opinions and experiences are different for A4 (3.42) owners?
Absolutely.
In an A4 car (2005 C6 or any year automatic C5) the 3.42s are the absolute minimum I would use for any serious performance in a naturally aspirated application.
In an A4, 3.73s are likely ideal for a strong street/strip set up in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Flash20
whats this a6 shootout? My car went 9.8's with a stock motor and trans with a little bit of spray. I currently have a nice size stroker motor with more spray on it. mid to low 9's shouldnt be a problem once everything is dialed in


lol, impossible, there has only been 1 a6 ar that has went 9s, until just recently. you lie! impossible (sarcasm).

Yes, I am going to try to get one going.
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Originally Posted by Flash20
My car went 9.8's with a stock motor and trans with a little bit of spray.
Wow, a bone stock long block (stock cam/stock heads and all) and only a small shot?
That's very impressive.
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Wow, a bone stock long block (stock cam/stock heads and all) and only a small shot?
That's very impressive.
i thought this, but did not feel like opening that can of worms.
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