A6 with 3.42 gears - Would you do it again?
#21
I am going to be orginzing a A6 shootout this year, or at least trying to. I am going to see what tranny shops want to put up some money, and throw there hat in the ring. I am even considering putting a little money into the pot myself.
I am thinking las vegas, even though it is a 1600 mile hall for me, there will be NO excuses why those magic cali cars cant come and put up or shut up then.
I am thinking las vegas, even though it is a 1600 mile hall for me, there will be NO excuses why those magic cali cars cant come and put up or shut up then.
#22
I am going to be orginzing a A6 shootout this year, or at least trying to. I am going to see what tranny shops want to put up some money, and throw there hat in the ring. I am even considering putting a little money into the pot myself.
I am thinking las vegas, even though it is a 1600 mile hall for me, there will be NO excuses why those magic cali cars cant come and put up or shut up then.
I am thinking las vegas, even though it is a 1600 mile hall for me, there will be NO excuses why those magic cali cars cant come and put up or shut up then.
#23
I am pretty sure i know alll about your deal. I hope it all works out for you in the end. If your going with rodneys 4l65 swap, you cant go wrong. I am going to do it eventually, but i decided since i got the rest of the car finally fixed, I wanted to see just how fast a 6l80 trans would go, and not be replaced after every pass. so far, since the last rebuild, mine has made hundreds of passes and about 3000 street miles, at 3500+#s and 600 or so rwhp. I wish i could get my car down to 3000 pounds, the thing would last forever .
#24
Team Owner
Just as a starting point for reference, I gained .3 ET with a 3200 Yank converter for about $800 self installed and retained the stock 2.56 gear. A friend spent slightly over $2000 including installation for a 3.42 gear with his stock converter and gained .1 ET. Just facts and no opinion.
My car would go 1.46 1.49 with 3.42s
I have decided that i like my trans, and it likes me not shifting it into 4th gear, makeing 600rwhp, as the clutch pack for 4-5-6 is tiny.
I put 2.73 out of a 08 in it, and guess what, my 60's, 1.44-1.48, my mph is 1-2 higher, I am guessing because there is no wasted shift time. and the car runs at a lower rpm on the highway.
with the right converter, and tune, 3.42 are not needed. the car was alot more violent on the 3.42s but not any faster.
I have decided that i like my trans, and it likes me not shifting it into 4th gear, makeing 600rwhp, as the clutch pack for 4-5-6 is tiny.
I put 2.73 out of a 08 in it, and guess what, my 60's, 1.44-1.48, my mph is 1-2 higher, I am guessing because there is no wasted shift time. and the car runs at a lower rpm on the highway.
with the right converter, and tune, 3.42 are not needed. the car was alot more violent on the 3.42s but not any faster.
Well, actually.
#25
I still have my 2.56s as well and have hit a 1.52 sixty foot and 10.9s at over 125mph with only 393rwhp. While logic dictates that 3.42s should excel in almost every A6 application, I too and am not yet thoroughly convinced that they are truly needed either. Maybe they make a whole lot of difference on the street but I still need to see solid (and proven) track improvements before I drop that kind of ca$h.
Well, actually.
Well, actually.
#26
still waiting on the bill for repairs needed that was caused by a A6 vendor, so not going to bash anyone on what they did bottoming my car out very hard.. they were very professional and showed me what they did upfront. but lets just say I am not going to stick with there product for reasons other than that statement.. and I believe they have a good product but not good for 900rwhp ppl.. thye do not want to warranty me every other week like I want to get my car worked on every other week
OP.. 3,42's and a stall on a street car just feels sick on a a6.. you will def not regret it..
OP.. 3,42's and a stall on a street car just feels sick on a a6.. you will def not regret it..
#27
whats this a6 shootout? My car went 9.8's with a stock motor and trans with a little bit of spray. I currently have a nice size stroker motor with more spray on it. mid to low 9's shouldnt be a problem once everything is dialed in
#28
Team Owner
Dumb question......sorry, but wanted to ask:
Does 1st gear become unusable/way too short with 3.42?
The "fun as heck on the street" comments are getting to me a bit......
Does 1st gear become unusable/way too short with 3.42?
The "fun as heck on the street" comments are getting to me a bit......
#29
#30
Team Owner
Not a problem. Only other concern is top speed- I currently run around 4600rpm at 168mph in 5th, so I've gotta figure out where I'd be in 6th at the same speed. 168 is my max speed at some events I run each year, and for the durations we run, I can't feel comfortable above 5000.
Great thread. I can live with 2nd gear starts.....
Thanks for the info.
Great thread. I can live with 2nd gear starts.....
Thanks for the info.
#31
Drifting
well, i am not even going to read the rest of this thread, I will just give you real world numbers.
My car would go 1.46 1.49 with 3.42s
I have decided that i like my trans, and it likes me not shifting it into 4th gear, makeing 600rwhp, as the clutch pack for 4-5-6 is tiny.
I put 2.73 out of a 08 in it, and guess what, my 60's, 1.44-1.48, my mph is 1-2 higher, I am guessing because there is no wasted shift time. and the car runs at a lower rpm on the highway.
with the right converter, and tune, 3.42 are not needed. the car was alot more violent on the 3.42s but not any faster.
there is something else you need to look at. Guys with BIG hp, dont use gear, they let the power do the work for them. Now that being said, you cant compare our transmission to older trannies because of the gearing IN the trans. thats why a 3.42 is from what i have seen, equal to a 4.10- or so (estimate).
My car has been as fast as all but ONE a6 car on here, and I have ran both gears, and i say 3.42s feel neat on the street, but would not recomend them to anyone, 3.15s are about the max i recommend.
keep your car out of 4th, your trans will thank you for it.
My car would go 1.46 1.49 with 3.42s
I have decided that i like my trans, and it likes me not shifting it into 4th gear, makeing 600rwhp, as the clutch pack for 4-5-6 is tiny.
I put 2.73 out of a 08 in it, and guess what, my 60's, 1.44-1.48, my mph is 1-2 higher, I am guessing because there is no wasted shift time. and the car runs at a lower rpm on the highway.
with the right converter, and tune, 3.42 are not needed. the car was alot more violent on the 3.42s but not any faster.
there is something else you need to look at. Guys with BIG hp, dont use gear, they let the power do the work for them. Now that being said, you cant compare our transmission to older trannies because of the gearing IN the trans. thats why a 3.42 is from what i have seen, equal to a 4.10- or so (estimate).
My car has been as fast as all but ONE a6 car on here, and I have ran both gears, and i say 3.42s feel neat on the street, but would not recomend them to anyone, 3.15s are about the max i recommend.
keep your car out of 4th, your trans will thank you for it.
#32
Drifting
I have 3:15's with a Yank 3600.
It's awesome but a car with 2:56 or 2:73's and the same rwhp will pull on me after 75-80 mph.
3:15's are a blast around town and the gears take the car out of the drone zone on the fwy.
It's awesome but a car with 2:56 or 2:73's and the same rwhp will pull on me after 75-80 mph.
3:15's are a blast around town and the gears take the car out of the drone zone on the fwy.
#35
Le Mans Master
I understand this thread is based around the A6 but I'm curious if the opinions and experiences are different for A4 (3.42) owners?
I'm a manual car so asking purely as informative information.
I'm a manual car so asking purely as informative information.
#36
just about any and all onversations based around a a6, are completely irrelevent (spellcheck?) to a a4. totally different gearing in the trans.
#37
Team Owner
In an A4 car (2005 C6 or any year automatic C5) the 3.42s are the absolute minimum I would use for any serious performance in a naturally aspirated application.
In an A4, 3.73s are likely ideal for a strong street/strip set up in my opinion.
#38
lol, impossible, there has only been 1 a6 ar that has went 9s, until just recently. you lie! impossible (sarcasm).
Yes, I am going to try to get one going.
#39
Team Owner
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