Breakfast at the Stop Light
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From: Cornelius NC
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From: Cornelius NC
Tom
I realize that, that is why I typed “I hate to”…….. He OP stated that he was new to drag racing. The driver mod is the most important modification because we can always become better drivers. If you look at Rangers tips you will notice that he has maximized his ability to launch & drive his car. He is much faster than guys with modded cars.
Most of us consider ourselves to be good drivers. However, there is always room for improvement and suggestions. You will be surprised what you can learn from others, that is one of the most important benefits of this forum..... to draw on others experience.
It is in ones best interest to improve his abilities first as a driver. If you can not launch the car all those mods are worthless as the guy next to you waves Bye bye!
I realize that, that is why I typed “I hate to”…….. He OP stated that he was new to drag racing. The driver mod is the most important modification because we can always become better drivers. If you look at Rangers tips you will notice that he has maximized his ability to launch & drive his car. He is much faster than guys with modded cars.
Most of us consider ourselves to be good drivers. However, there is always room for improvement and suggestions. You will be surprised what you can learn from others, that is one of the most important benefits of this forum..... to draw on others experience.
It is in ones best interest to improve his abilities first as a driver. If you can not launch the car all those mods are worthless as the guy next to you waves Bye bye!
Get a set of headers and a tune and you'll be all set....if that's nto enough they can hook you up with any kind of FI or Cam package you want
Safety Car
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From: Bethesda MD
I'm hearing a lot of people stating to go with the A&A kit (which I've been seriously considering due to the lower cost) vs. the e-force, but I haven't really heard any reasons why. Is it simply because the costs are lower? I would expect that each has its own driving characteristics because they are two different types of s/c's, and I'd like to know what those differences are if anyone can explain them to me.
The A&A blower is a centri, which builds boost proportionally as rpms increase. At 2500 rpm it isn't making much boost so the car will feel close to stock. As rpm increases so does the boost and power. Very easy to get 700+ RWHP from the centri blower, if you want to build a car for that power. ECS makes a similar kit to A&A that uses a smaller pulley and a restrictor plate to build more midrange boost, but not make so much power at 6500 rpm as to significantly increase the risk of damage compared to a standard lower boost configuration.
For equal peak HP, (e.g. 550 RWHP) I've seen PD blower cars beat the centri cars because of the extra midrange torque. Whether you can use all the torque of a PD blower will be a function of the gear you go WOT and tires. The centri kits are a great value and are easy to crank up if your addiction grows. The ECS kit torque curve from 3000 rpm and up is fairly close to a PD without the cost of E-force.
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Eforce is a positive displacement blower. It makes power everywhere. It will put the tires up in smoke at 2500 rpm, maybe even as low as 2000 rpm. So far, there only seem to be a couple high HP (>650 RWHP) using the E-force, although it should be capable of more than what most people run it at.
The A&A blower is a centri, which builds boost proportionally as rpms increase. At 2500 rpm it isn't making much boost so the car will feel close to stock. As rpm increases so does the boost and power. Very easy to get 700+ RWHP from the centri blower, if you want to build a car for that power. ECS makes a similar kit to A&A that uses a smaller pulley and a restrictor plate to build more midrange boost, but not make so much power at 6500 rpm as to significantly increase the risk of damage compared to a standard lower boost configuration.
For equal peak HP, (e.g. 550 RWHP) I've seen PD blower cars beat the centri cars because of the extra midrange torque. Whether you can use all the torque of a PD blower will be a function of the gear you go WOT and tires. The centri kits are a great value and are easy to crank up if your addiction grows. The ECS kit torque curve from 3000 rpm and up is fairly close to a PD without the cost of E-force.
The A&A blower is a centri, which builds boost proportionally as rpms increase. At 2500 rpm it isn't making much boost so the car will feel close to stock. As rpm increases so does the boost and power. Very easy to get 700+ RWHP from the centri blower, if you want to build a car for that power. ECS makes a similar kit to A&A that uses a smaller pulley and a restrictor plate to build more midrange boost, but not make so much power at 6500 rpm as to significantly increase the risk of damage compared to a standard lower boost configuration.
For equal peak HP, (e.g. 550 RWHP) I've seen PD blower cars beat the centri cars because of the extra midrange torque. Whether you can use all the torque of a PD blower will be a function of the gear you go WOT and tires. The centri kits are a great value and are easy to crank up if your addiction grows. The ECS kit torque curve from 3000 rpm and up is fairly close to a PD without the cost of E-force.
Racer
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From: FL
I would go this route. Headers, vararam, cam, u/d pully and a tune. That will put you right around 500 to the tires with a decent cam. My car drives better then stock and it didn't affect the reliability at all. You will eat a stock ls3's lunch with that any day of the week. pm me if you have any questions.
