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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 02:15 PM
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I've had them on for about two years. They still have some life left but they seem to have lost their bite so I would like to replace them before my next HPDE the end of this month. I wouldn't mind getting another set but I'm open to try something else if there are any suggestions.
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 05:28 PM
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I hear good things about Carbotech, instructors at some of the HPDE days I've been to recommended them. I'm a big fan of Hawk and Satisfied.
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 5 Liter Eater
I've had them on for about two years. They still have some life left but they seem to have lost their bite so I would like to replace them before my next HPDE the end of this month. I wouldn't mind getting another set but I'm open to try something else if there are any suggestions.
With the power you make, your currents pads may be glazed. I would be happy to help you out with a pad selection, can you please tell me the track you run and tires you use? Also, is this a street driven car and is noise an issue?
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 06:25 PM
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same boat but I'm running HP+. I run Willow Springs (big track), but mostly street driven now.

Anything good?
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 10:24 PM
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Adam, the glazing is very likely. I'm going to Texas World Speedway (TWS) the end of the month and Houston Motorsports Ranch (MSR) later this year. But the car is a ~daily driver (about every other day).
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Adam, the glazing is very likely. I'm going to Texas World Speedway (TWS) the end of the month and Houston Motorsports Ranch (MSR) later this year. But the car is a ~daily driver (about every other day).
For your use I would use XP10 front and XP8 in the rear. The noise issue is up to you, I would use the 1521 on the street and than just switch to the 10 and 8 for track.


When Carbotech unleashed the XP10™ to the general public, and it was an instant success, gathering multiple regional, divisional, and national championships. The XP10™ is a very high initial bite friction material, with a coefficient of friction and rotor friendliness unmatched in the industry. Fade resistance is in excess of 1650°F. Due to the high level of friction and bite, this material is recommended for cars weighing around 2,000lbs or more, not including formula cars and cars with brake bias bars weighing less than 2,000lbs. This is the preferred compound for the front of Spec Miata racers, SSC,SSB, T3, SRF, ITS, ITE, H1,H2, H3, H4, 944 Cup, ST, GS, Factory Five Cobra’s and many more Grand-Am/ALMS/SCCA/NASA classes. XP10™ is also ideal for advanced/instructor level HPDE drivers. XP10™ still maintains the highly praised release and excellent modulation, rotor friendliness, and 100% non-corrosive dust that have made all Carbotech compounds so successful. XP10™ is not recommended as a daily-driven street pad due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise.


A high torque brake compound with a wide operating temperature range (200°F-1350°F+). Carbotech XP8™ is the first of our racing compounds. Outstanding initial bite at race temperatures, high coefficient of friction, excellent modulation and release characteristics. Extremely high fade resistance, very rotor friendly with 100% non-corrosive dust. Excellent as a front brake pad for lighter ITA, ITB, ITC, SRF, H4, H5, and other cars that weigh less than 2,400lbs. Perfect for novice, intermediate and advanced track day (HPDE) use with any tire, and can still be driven safely to and from the track. There are several vehicles that use XP8™ on the street, autocross, and at track day (HPDE) events. Carbotech does NOT recommended XP8™ as a daily driven street pad due to elevated levels of dust and noise. XP8™ is also a great rear brake pad for almost any race car (Spec Miata-T1/T2/CMC). XP8™ is a great compound on the front & rear of most open wheel and sports racers.

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Originally Posted by ShowcaseC6
same boat but I'm running HP+. I run Willow Springs (big track), but mostly street driven now.

Anything good?
Please read above.
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Old Aug 9, 2011 | 02:14 PM
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Hawk has their HP+ line that supposedly works at lower temps, and the DTC30 line that works at around the same lower temps but has a higher upper limit.
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