C6 Tech/Performance LS2, LS3, LS7, LS9 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Help with mod suggestions under 1k

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 17, 2011 | 04:18 PM
  #1  
LT1_E85_Corvette's Avatar
LT1_E85_Corvette
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,519
Likes: 7
From: Indy
Default Help with mod suggestions under 1k

Alight forum friends... I am about to make my next purchase however, I am totally torn on what to do. I am thinking about the following.

Options 1)
Headers - Any set and it really doesnt matter. 1 7/8 for sure however, this would pretty much be the end of my mod list. With the my E85 I'm hoping for 25-30whp gain

Headers Price $700 - $1,200

Option 2)
Spiral ported throttle body + Z06 manifold setup + deleting cats
I feel I'm getting more for my money here and I'm leaning more towards this direction.

Throttle body Price $150-$200
Z06 Exhaust price $350 - $450
Total: $500-$750

All that being said which one would net more power and in your personal opinion and, which direction would you go? I'm sure the power would be close if comparing the two although, headers have such a unique sound to them.

HELP! Thanks for your input!
Reply
Old Aug 17, 2011 | 04:50 PM
  #2  
Tikiman12's Avatar
Tikiman12
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,730
Likes: 4
From: Delray Beach Florida
Default

headers are going to give you the most power
Reply
Old Aug 17, 2011 | 05:11 PM
  #3  
Cromagnum's Avatar
Cromagnum
Pro
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 543
Likes: 58
From: Houston TX
Default

I think you'll be a lot more happy with headers for the power increase and the noticeably improved sound quality of your exhaust.
Reply
Old Aug 17, 2011 | 10:43 PM
  #4  
Gering's Avatar
Gering
Tolero Apto Victum
Supporting Lifetime
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 9,669
Likes: 37
From: Woodlands TX
Default

Originally Posted by Cromagnum
I think you'll be a lot more happy with headers for the power increase and the noticeably improved sound quality of your exhaust.


There was a big difference in sound when I added my kooks headers.
Reply
Old Aug 17, 2011 | 11:06 PM
  #5  
bdanyluk's Avatar
bdanyluk
Drifting
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,400
Likes: 39
From: Atlanta Georgia
Default

Headers....then tires.....then sway bars.....whenever you get the money.....COMPLETELY new feel for the car. Unless you start racing/HPDEs you won't need any more than that if you're on a tight budget....guaranteed.
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2011 | 08:31 AM
  #6  
FloydSummerOf68's Avatar
FloydSummerOf68
Race Director
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 11,331
Likes: 18
From: Missouri City Texas
Default

OBX headers..best "under $1000" mod that exists for our cars.

If it were an LS2 it would probably be between those or a Ported FAST intake, but the LS3 intake is already very good.
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2011 | 08:35 AM
  #7  
LT1_E85_Corvette's Avatar
LT1_E85_Corvette
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,519
Likes: 7
From: Indy
Default

Thanks for all the suggestions everyone! It seems people are leaning towards headers (kinda surprised). Glad I asked and I will be looking in this direction moving forward.

Originally Posted by FloydSummerOf68
OBX headers..best "under $1000" mod that exists for our cars.

If it were an LS2 it would probably be between those or a Ported FAST intake, but the LS3 intake is already very good.
With the price of of the OBX headers I might still have room for the ported throttle body. Gotta love the chase for a good deal!
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2011 | 09:54 PM
  #8  
TripleAstyle123's Avatar
TripleAstyle123
Pro
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 708
Likes: 1
From: Blaine Minnesota
Default

Originally Posted by LS3_E85_Corvette
Thanks for all the suggestions everyone! It seems people are leaning towards headers (kinda surprised). Glad I asked and I will be looking in this direction moving forward.
With headers alone doesn't your injector cylcing rate worry you? I would assume if you plan for these mods you will be installing larger injectors?

But I would say headers considering the sound factor alone!
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Aug 19, 2011 | 08:21 AM
  #9  
FloydSummerOf68's Avatar
FloydSummerOf68
Race Director
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 11,331
Likes: 18
From: Missouri City Texas
Default

Originally Posted by TripleAstyle123
With headers alone doesn't your injector cylcing rate worry you? I would assume if you plan for these mods you will be installing larger injectors?

But I would say headers considering the sound factor alone!
Good point!

I didn't think about you still being on stock injectors.

Plan on upgrading to FAST 60# or something similar at the same time. They're pretty cheap...only ~370 through Hinson.
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2011 | 12:05 PM
  #10  
LT1_E85_Corvette's Avatar
LT1_E85_Corvette
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,519
Likes: 7
From: Indy
Default

Originally Posted by FloydSummerOf68
Good point!

I didn't think about you still being on stock injectors.

Plan on upgrading to FAST 60# or something similar at the same time. They're pretty cheap...only ~370 through Hinson.
I have contacted my tuner and I'm only at a 90% duty cycle under WOT. I have lots of room before I have any injector issues. He told me that I should be good to about 500rwhp. Headers and a few other bolt ons should keep me in the clear
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2011 | 12:12 PM
  #11  
FloydSummerOf68's Avatar
FloydSummerOf68
Race Director
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 11,331
Likes: 18
From: Missouri City Texas
Default

Um...you don't want to take injectors to 100% duty cycle.

You're already really pushing it at 90%.

80-85% is where most like to keep it.

Last edited by FloydSummerOf68; Aug 19, 2011 at 12:17 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2011 | 12:33 PM
  #12  
LT1_E85_Corvette's Avatar
LT1_E85_Corvette
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,519
Likes: 7
From: Indy
Default

Originally Posted by FloydSummerOf68
Um...you don't want to take injectors to 100% duty cycle.

You're already really pushing it at 90%.

80-85% is where most like to keep it.
I should be floating around 93-95 only at WOT. I'm already over 85 now with no ill effects. If a injector fails I will either get a larger set or fix the failed injector(s) and put it back on pump gas.

I will donate my car for a experiment

As always I will share the results with everyone
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2011 | 12:39 PM
  #13  
FloydSummerOf68's Avatar
FloydSummerOf68
Race Director
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 11,331
Likes: 18
From: Missouri City Texas
Default

95% duty cycle when you tune it...changes in weather could very easily cause you to go into a lean condition at WOT, which would be bad.

It's much cheaper to get a set of injectors now rather than what could happen after going lean.

A tuner should not be advising you to get so close to 100% duty cycle.
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2011 | 01:24 PM
  #14  
LT1_E85_Corvette's Avatar
LT1_E85_Corvette
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,519
Likes: 7
From: Indy
Default

Originally Posted by FloydSummerOf68
95% duty cycle when you tune it...changes in weather could very easily cause you to go into a lean condition at WOT, which would be bad.

It's much cheaper to get a set of injectors now rather than what could happen after going lean.

A tuner should not be advising you to get so close to 100% duty cycle.
I will speak with him and see his thoughts. He just said I was at 90% and I'm just assuming I can go higher. Let me ask a few questions and we can pick up this topic later
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2011 | 01:30 PM
  #15  
FloydSummerOf68's Avatar
FloydSummerOf68
Race Director
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 11,331
Likes: 18
From: Missouri City Texas
Default

It never hurts to have more fueling capability than you need...it does hurt to not have enough though.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2011 | 06:50 PM
  #16  
TripleAstyle123's Avatar
TripleAstyle123
Pro
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 708
Likes: 1
From: Blaine Minnesota
Default

Originally Posted by FloydSummerOf68
It never hurts to have more fueling capability than you need...it does hurt to not have enough though.
Hey Floyd! How hard are injectors to install yourself? I am technically advanced but in a mechanical field other than cars/engines. I have heard from an "iffy" source it is very easy. If I dont have to tear too much apart I would consider doing them to be safe when running my LS3 with E-85. Any thoughts?
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2011 | 06:51 PM
  #17  
TripleAstyle123's Avatar
TripleAstyle123
Pro
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 708
Likes: 1
From: Blaine Minnesota
Default

Originally Posted by FloydSummerOf68
It never hurts to have more fueling capability than you need...it does hurt to not have enough though.
running lean at WOT can cause a big boom. not good
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Help with mod suggestions under 1k

Old Aug 22, 2011 | 07:08 PM
  #18  
seevi's Avatar
seevi
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
Veteran: Air Force
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 802
Likes: 6
From: Oro Valley AZ
Default

You can save yourself a bunch of money by buying a used, complete ZO6 exhaust system. You can get one very cheap and it's a bolt on! Any mod that impacts the engines breathing will require a tune to get the most out of it.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2011 | 07:14 PM
  #19  
TripleAstyle123's Avatar
TripleAstyle123
Pro
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 708
Likes: 1
From: Blaine Minnesota
Default

Originally Posted by seevi
You can save yourself a bunch of money by buying a used, complete ZO6 exhaust system. You can get one very cheap and it's a bolt on! Any mod that impacts the engines breathing will require a tune to get the most out of it.
I talked to a guy this weekend at a corvette only show in MN (stillwater) that said he sold his stock Z exhaust for $400. I think $700 or so is more usual though.
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2011 | 09:45 AM
  #20  
FloydSummerOf68's Avatar
FloydSummerOf68
Race Director
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 11,331
Likes: 18
From: Missouri City Texas
Default

Originally Posted by TripleAstyle123
Hey Floyd! How hard are injectors to install yourself? I am technically advanced but in a mechanical field other than cars/engines. I have heard from an "iffy" source it is very easy. If I dont have to tear too much apart I would consider doing them to be safe when running my LS3 with E-85. Any thoughts?
Injectors are a VERY easy swap with nothing but basic hand tools and an hour or so of your time.

Originally Posted by TripleAstyle123
I talked to a guy this weekend at a corvette only show in MN (stillwater) that said he sold his stock Z exhaust for $400. I think $700 or so is more usual though.
400 is a typical price for manifolds, cats and h-pipe.

If it includes the mufflers that's a great price.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:56 AM.

story-0
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-2
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE