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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 12:12 PM
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Is this the proper type of bleeder for our cars:

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...entifier=70116


any experience with this fluid? 519deg dry 368deg wet and CHEAP (yes Id rather run ate motul or castrol but it costs more & will be a further trip. also this is close to the Boiling points of the ate blue/gold series):

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...entifier=21052


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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by el es tu
Is this the proper type of bleeder for our cars:

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...entifier=70116


any experience with this fluid? 519deg dry 368deg wet and CHEAP (yes Id rather run ate motul or castrol but it costs more & will be a further trip. also this is close to the Boiling points of the ate blue/gold series):

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...entifier=21052

That is a nice bleeder and vacuum tool! I also have one, only use that for vacuum testing!

For brake bleeding, I am using a simpler one from the same company, bought back in '83. It is all plastic construction and without gauge on top. I have been using that on motorcycles and cars.

No opinion on the brake fluid. I don't race, my experience have been limited on using Castrol Dot 3/4 LMA for all my applications!

HTH!
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Originally Posted by victorf
That is a nice bleeder and vacuum tool! I also have one, only use that for vacuum testing!

For brake bleeding, I am using a simpler one from the same company, bought back in '83. It is all plastic construction and without gauge on top. I have been using that on motorcycles and cars.

No opinion on the brake fluid. I don't race, my experience have been limited on using Castrol Dot 3/4 LMA for all my applications!

HTH!
Thanks for the reply. Im planning on getting the unit today.
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 02:56 PM
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I'm a big fan of the speed bleeders.

1010S if my memory serves.

http://speedbleeder.zoovy.com/

I always had trouble keeping a vacuum with those pumps for some reason, and ended up making a mess. The speed bleeders are fool proof.

If I was going to the track, I'd stick with a brake fluid known to be good on the track. That's one area I wouldn't save a few bucks. I like Motul. Just my humble opinion.
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I'm a big fan of the speed bleeders.

1010S if my memory serves.

http://speedbleeder.zoovy.com/

I always had trouble keeping a vacuum with those pumps for some reason, and ended up making a mess. The speed bleeders are fool proof.

If I was going to the track, I'd stick with a brake fluid known to be good on the track. That's one area I wouldn't save a few bucks. I like Motul. Just my humble opinion.
Hey Joe, you have been great on the CF and always responded with detail explanations on all my questions. Maybe this can be helpful, for info purpose, over at the Auto-X crowd, they are having a lot of issues with speed bleeder. Many are going back to stock! Might want to check into that.

Road racers really tax their brakes. Noticed heat from braking discolor the paint on some powder coated calipers. Since you only drag race, might be alright! However, I wouldn't take any chances, but thats just me!

One thing I have learned years ago was to lightly wrap the bleeder thread with Teflon tape, that seems to cut down some air getting passed the bleeder's thread when vacuum is applied. And because I don't race, braking heat doesn't affect the low melting point of the tape.
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by victorf
Hey Joe, you have been great on the CF and always responded with detail explanations on all my questions. Maybe this can be helpful, for info purpose, over at the Auto-X crowd, they are having a lot of issues with speed bleeder. Many are going back to stock! Might want to check into that.

Road racers really tax their brakes. Noticed heat from braking discolor the paint on some powder coated calipers. Since you only drag race, might be alright! However, I wouldn't take any chances, but thats just me!

One thing I have learned years ago was to lightly wrap the bleeder thread with Teflon tape, that seems to cut down some air getting passed the bleeder's thread when vacuum is applied. And because I don't race, braking heat doesn't affect the low melting point of the tape.
Thanks for the kind words!

I do HPDE's, but haven't since 2006 or so since my second son was born! I've not had a lick of trouble with my speed bleeders during the time I used them on my C5 and C6 but it's been a while since I bled as I think about it.

I'll check into the RR section and if they are becoming problematic I'll stop recommending them! I do love them so for bleeding. And, by the way, so does my wife.

Hmmm...my older son is 8 now, I think he'll be able to pump the brakes!
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Originally Posted by Joe_G
Thanks for the kind words!

I do HPDE's, but haven't since 2006 or so since my second son was born! I've not had a lick of trouble with my speed bleeders during the time I used them on my C5 and C6 but it's been a while since I bled as I think about it.

I'll check into the RR section and if they are becoming problematic I'll stop recommending them! I do love them so for bleeding. And, by the way, so does my wife.

Hmmm...my older son is 8 now, I think he'll be able to pump the brakes!


My wife used to help me but since making the initial purchase of the Mityvac plastic handle back in '83, neither my son nor my daughter had to help since their birth - luck kids!
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Sorry, but nothing beats a Motive Pressure Bleeder.
http://www.motivebleeder.com/
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Originally Posted by CDaniel525
Sorry, but nothing beats a Motive Pressure Bleeder.
http://www.motivebleeder.com/
Not a contest of tools. Its not the tool but the person using it.

Joking aside, Motive is a heavy contender if my trusty Mityvac ever fails!

Fyi, Mityvac costed me $15 back in '83.
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Originally Posted by victorf
Its not the tool but the person using it.
Right, bet u claim size doesn't matter either! Lol, jk...

Ya, Motive def isn't cheap!
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Sorry, but nothing beats a Motive Pressure Bleeder.
http://www.motivebleeder.com/
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 08:37 PM
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You can get a synthetic DOT 4 at the same location, but what you have will work.

You can use it in your clutch as well, if you have one.
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Originally Posted by speedraider
Me too for a Motive bleeder. The Vette master cylinder holds enough fluid you can just use it to pressurize and bleed.

Previously had problems with speed bleeders ingesting air but the teflon tape should help.
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The Might Vac is a PIA to use in comparison to the Motive. Get the Motive 0108 Bleeder. The cap screws right on the C5/C6 brake reservoir. Summit, Jegs several others sell it so hunt around for the best shipped price.

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