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Important Super Bee initial install maintainence
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St. Jude Donor '09
Important Super Bee initial install maintainence
The Super Bee itself cannot cause a lean code, but an airleak will.
The very first system I installed this Summer recently had a loose hose clamp, connector hose to the bridge. The owner said the hose clamp to the bridge spun around. He had a lean code from the fact that the hose was no longer tight. 15 second fix, just by retightening the clamp took care of the issue.
Since this was one of my several test LS3s, I did some investigation and here is what we found out. We measured bridges after a three heat cycles and found that they shrink about .030” which is enough to cause the top hose clamp to get loose.
The type of silicone hose clamp we use on the Super BEE MF103 is loose until clamped. i.e. it will leak if the hose clamp is not tight.
If you have purchased the Super Bee MF103, we suggest you pop the hood with the motor cold and retighten the hose clamp on the bridge.
No need to retighten after the first time, since the initial shrinkage is a one time event, which happens within the first few days. The hose clamp is a 7mm nut and only a 7mm nutdriver should be used. NEVER TIGHTEN WHEN THE MOTOR IS HOT, OR THE PLASTIC COULD DEFORM.
The very first system I installed this Summer recently had a loose hose clamp, connector hose to the bridge. The owner said the hose clamp to the bridge spun around. He had a lean code from the fact that the hose was no longer tight. 15 second fix, just by retightening the clamp took care of the issue.
Since this was one of my several test LS3s, I did some investigation and here is what we found out. We measured bridges after a three heat cycles and found that they shrink about .030” which is enough to cause the top hose clamp to get loose.
The type of silicone hose clamp we use on the Super BEE MF103 is loose until clamped. i.e. it will leak if the hose clamp is not tight.
If you have purchased the Super Bee MF103, we suggest you pop the hood with the motor cold and retighten the hose clamp on the bridge.
No need to retighten after the first time, since the initial shrinkage is a one time event, which happens within the first few days. The hose clamp is a 7mm nut and only a 7mm nutdriver should be used. NEVER TIGHTEN WHEN THE MOTOR IS HOT, OR THE PLASTIC COULD DEFORM.
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St. Jude Donor '09
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In 2006 we had a forum member run 10.87 at 132 with our Killer Bee I, DRs and my tuning only. WaynesZ06. I know you have an LS3, but the numbers you posted are pretty damn awesome.
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That's pretty sweet Jim, congrats 
I have the measly LS3 but she does alright, all things considered
Congrats again on a stellar product-- I receive many complements on it every time I go to the track.
I have the measly LS3 but she does alright, all things considered
Congrats again on a stellar product-- I receive many complements on it every time I go to the track.
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A quick question Jim. I took your advise to check the clamp for retightening.
When I installed my MF103 I noticed the hole for the PCV in the rubber bridge was very small. As hard as I tried, I couldn't get the nipple inserted in that hole and had to drill it slightly larger inorder to get the nipple fitting in there. After I did this, I was worried about any possible air leak because the nipple fitting does turn 360 degrees, although seems tight. I thought about wrapping it with teflon tape similiar to what someone would use on pipe threads as an added precaution. Before doing anything like that, is there any possible consequence of doing so and would the computer show a code if this were leaking at a level to cause a problem? I checked and my computer does not have any codes showing at this point and the CAI has been installed for over 2 weeks?
Oh yes, one more thing, I love my MF103 Super Bee CAI and the companion X3 Email tune........well worth every cent.......and thanks for the "personalized 1st class service"!!! I would recommend Jim and HALLTECH to everyone considering any of his products!!!!!!
When I installed my MF103 I noticed the hole for the PCV in the rubber bridge was very small. As hard as I tried, I couldn't get the nipple inserted in that hole and had to drill it slightly larger inorder to get the nipple fitting in there. After I did this, I was worried about any possible air leak because the nipple fitting does turn 360 degrees, although seems tight. I thought about wrapping it with teflon tape similiar to what someone would use on pipe threads as an added precaution. Before doing anything like that, is there any possible consequence of doing so and would the computer show a code if this were leaking at a level to cause a problem? I checked and my computer does not have any codes showing at this point and the CAI has been installed for over 2 weeks?
Oh yes, one more thing, I love my MF103 Super Bee CAI and the companion X3 Email tune........well worth every cent.......and thanks for the "personalized 1st class service"!!! I would recommend Jim and HALLTECH to everyone considering any of his products!!!!!!
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A quick question Jim. I took your advise to check the clamp for retightening.
When I installed my MF103 I noticed the hole for the PCV in the rubber bridge was very small. As hard as I tried, I couldn't get the nipple inserted in that hole and had to drill it slightly larger inorder to get the nipple fitting in there. After I did this, I was worried about any possible air leak because the nipple fitting does turn 360 degrees, although seems tight. I thought about wrapping it with teflon tape similiar to what someone would use on pipe threads as an added precaution. Before doing anything like that, is there any possible consequence of doing so and would the computer show a code if this were leaking at a level to cause a problem? I checked and my computer does not have any codes showing at this point and the CAI has been installed for over 2 weeks?
Oh yes, one more thing, I love my MF103 Super Bee CAI and the companion X3 Email tune........well worth every cent.......and thanks for the "personalized 1st class service"!!! I would recommend Jim and HALLTECH to everyone considering any of his products!!!!!!
When I installed my MF103 I noticed the hole for the PCV in the rubber bridge was very small. As hard as I tried, I couldn't get the nipple inserted in that hole and had to drill it slightly larger inorder to get the nipple fitting in there. After I did this, I was worried about any possible air leak because the nipple fitting does turn 360 degrees, although seems tight. I thought about wrapping it with teflon tape similiar to what someone would use on pipe threads as an added precaution. Before doing anything like that, is there any possible consequence of doing so and would the computer show a code if this were leaking at a level to cause a problem? I checked and my computer does not have any codes showing at this point and the CAI has been installed for over 2 weeks?
Oh yes, one more thing, I love my MF103 Super Bee CAI and the companion X3 Email tune........well worth every cent.......and thanks for the "personalized 1st class service"!!! I would recommend Jim and HALLTECH to everyone considering any of his products!!!!!!
It is a tight fit, but a little soap and water and mine went right in.
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The hole looks much too small for the PCV, but it will go in.