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Old 12-08-2011, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Dima32
Well, the advisor was even telling me that the pucks are there, under the towels and are installed until I came close and took the pictures!
I just hope you don't get the "being difficult" flag (Seinfeld ) in your Corvette file for all dealers to see.....good luck!
Old 12-08-2011, 06:39 PM
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If they Flag,mine is about the size of Alabama!
Old 12-08-2011, 09:34 PM
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Yeah, thats not even touching the frame! I cant beleive it isnt smashed into the door or cracked.
Old 12-08-2011, 09:47 PM
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That sux

Waiting for pic of you socking the Service adviser in the mouth.
Old 12-08-2011, 10:39 PM
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Hi, that's me (OP) again. Surprisingly, the rocker panels are not damaged. I have tried to look for any cracks but could not find any.

In any way, I am not going to that dealership again.
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Originally Posted by DSOMC6
That sux

Waiting for pic of you socking the Service adviser in the mouth.
There will be no pic of that. I made sure no one was around when I was doing that.
Old 12-09-2011, 08:53 AM
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Lifting pucks definitely are not necessary for lifting corvettes, and it can be done correctly, but what they're doing is certainly NOT correct.

If there are no cracks I wouldn't worry about it though. It's a panel you'll never see.

My XLR-V rockers have been cracked for a long time....no big deal. Unless I crawl under it I don't see the crack.
Old 12-09-2011, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by NYC6
This is the exact reason I installed the BMW pads and leave them installed.
I did the same.
Old 12-09-2011, 03:24 PM
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Hope it don't cause any stress crack in the paint.
Old 12-09-2011, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dima32
Hi, that's me (OP) again. Surprisingly, the rocker panels are not damaged. I have tried to look for any cracks but could not find any.

In any way, I am not going to that dealership again.
Imagine that, all the drama and no damage .....

Did you call the GM rep back and tell them that there was no damage ?
Old 12-10-2011, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by glenB
Imagine that, all the drama and no damage ..... Did you call the GM rep back and tell them that there was no damage ?
Damage or no damage, dealers have a responsibility to use the correct GM methods. This is just plain laziness/irresponsibility by a dealer service department.

Definitely don't go back - I have nothing but praise for my dealership - Courtesy Chevrolet in San Jose. You can do a search and see the difference between them and the "other" dealership.
Old 12-10-2011, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by sprinter
Damage or no damage, dealers have a responsibility to use the correct GM methods. This is just plain laziness/irresponsibility by a dealer service department.

Definitely don't go back - I have nothing but praise for my dealership - Courtesy Chevrolet in San Jose. You can do a search and see the difference between them and the "other" dealership.
Where does it say that pucks are required?

Granted, the SW's attitude sucked, but, what GM methods were broken?

Seems to me that this was carried alittle too far considering the outcome ....
Old 12-12-2011, 12:01 AM
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glenB -
The dealer is not lifting at the lifting points.
Not using the pucks is not the full issue here.
Old 12-12-2011, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by glenB
Where does it say that pucks are required?

Granted, the SW's attitude sucked, but, what GM methods were broken?

Seems to me that this was carried alittle too far considering the outcome ....
Forget GM's methods, rules and regulations - common sense tells you not to lift a 3,200-pound automobile by the bodywork.

Dealers and tire shops are never going to change. GM just needs to get rid of the wraparound rockers on the C7.
Old 12-12-2011, 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by NYC6
This is the exact reason I installed the BMW pads and leave them installed.
I would not let the advisor off so easy. He looked you in the eye and lied to you. Two things are sure, I would file a complaint and find another dealer.
Hope your car is OK.
plus one on the BMW pads!
Old 12-12-2011, 04:06 AM
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Pucks or not, the car should be lifted/supported by the frame, not the body panel.

That towel approach is total lazy a$$ BS. Guy should be slapped.

Fortunately you live in an area where you have options when it comes to dealer service.
Old 12-12-2011, 07:02 AM
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The arms are extended under the frame. There are cutouts in the rocker panel, and from the looks of it, I'd say the guy has done it like this for some time ....

GM says to drop the engine to do a cam swap, most here don't, are they wrong?

Sometimes there are more than one way to skin a cat
Old 12-12-2011, 12:12 PM
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Those rockers are about 1/8" thick fiberglass and crack extremely easily. Even a few pounds of pressure on them (which that shop rag is undoubtedly exerting upon them) can break them.

Even if the majority of the weight is within the cutout for the pucks, any pressure along the edges of that fiberglass is unacceptable. Period. It's a body panel...made of fiberglass....and painted. It IS NOT a load bearing portion of the car. There should be nothing whatsoever imparting any force against it.

That's pretty typical of GM service center techs, sorry to say.
Old 12-12-2011, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dima32
Here is the picture of how the lifting is done:
This is worst than awful!

The dealer is not using any of the prefered or secondary lifting points (that are 3 methods/locations demonstraded) pictured in the GM shop manual. (I have a 11GS too and I bought my own pucks just in case)

I think you should email these pictures to GM customer support.



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