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It is a nice dry evening here in Almost Heaven WV, so I went out looking for a new daily driver. Drove 30 miles to the dealer to see what is on the lot. I have a 2010 coupe with 9,000 miles, 6 sp manual and is run fairly easy most of the time with an occasional romp. Had the cruise set at 65 mph all the way to the dealer who was closed for the day and when I got there, I left it idling while I checked out the inventory. I was out maybe 10 minutes and when I got back in, the check engine light was on, same with the stabilty control message and it was running rough. Nursed it back home running rough, it wouldn't even pull 6th gear at 60 mph. Checked the codes with my Diablo Predator and it was a random misfire. I let it cool down a little and pulled off the FRCs and low and behold the spark plug wire on #1 cylinder had come completely off of the coil. Never experienced this one before. Put it back on and reset the codes and it fired right up with no CELs, idled and revved just fine in the garage. What could cause a plug wire to come off while it was sitting idling?, plugs or wires have never been touched. It is all stock except full Magnaflow catback and LS7 intake bridge and stock tune (no Predator). It had me baffled while I drove 30 miles home on 7 cylinders.
It is a nice dry evening here in Almost Heaven WV, so I went out looking for a new daily driver. Drove 30 miles to the dealer to see what is on the lot. I have a 2010 coupe with 9,000 miles, 6 sp manual and is run fairly easy most of the time with an occasional romp. Had the cruise set at 65 mph all the way to the dealer who was closed for the day and when I got there, I left it idling while I checked out the inventory. I was out maybe 10 minutes and when I got back in, the check engine light was on, same with the stabilty control message and it was running rough. Nursed it back home running rough, it wouldn't even pull 6th gear at 60 mph. Checked the codes with my Diablo Predator and it was a random misfire. I let it cool down a little and pulled off the FRCs and low and behold the spark plug wire on #1 cylinder had come completely off of the coil. Never experienced this one before. Put it back on and reset the codes and it fired right up with no CELs, idled and revved just fine in the garage. What could cause a plug wire to come off while it was sitting idling?, plugs or wires have never been touched. It is all stock except full Magnaflow catback and LS7 intake bridge and stock tune (no Predator). It had me baffled while I drove 30 miles home on 7 cylinders.
I had my number one cylinder plug wire come loose, but not off, once. Hasn't happened since. I don't have a good reason why it happened.
Try a search. Has happened to several people. My number 3 came off the coil at 300 miles. It did NOT click back on how it should. Part of the terminal that provides for a positive click on to the coil broke off. I would check all your wires carefully. Remove each one, look for broken parts inside the boot, and reinstall making certain you get the click. Possible it just wasn't pushed all the way on during assembly, but my vote is that it was broken during initial assembly and needs to be replaced.
Try a search. Has happened to several people. My number 3 came off the coil at 300 miles. It did NOT click back on how it should. Part of the terminal that provides for a positive click on to the coil broke off. I would check all your wires carefully. Remove each one, look for broken parts inside the boot, and reinstall making certain you get the click. Possible it just wasn't pushed all the way on during assembly, but my vote is that it was broken during initial assembly and needs to be replaced.
The act of removing the wires could break one. The terminals are fragile and sometimes get stuck. I keep a single spare wire in the trunk for this reason.
I had 3 loosen up and come off one time. The engine got hot ...it was about 95 degrees in Chapel Hill on Franklin St in stop and go traffic. There was no where to pull over. On star people asked if I wanted to have it towed to a Chevy Dealer. What a mess!. I Took off the Covers and much to my surprise the plug wires were coming out of the Coil Packs!
I had 3 loosen up and come off one time. The engine got hot ...it was about 95 degrees in Chapel Hill on Franklin St in stop and go traffic. There was no where to pull over. On star people asked if I wanted to have it towed to a Chevy Dealer. What a mess!. I Took off the Covers and much to my surprise the plug wires were coming out of the Coil Packs!
My 99 had the 2 rear-most plug wires pop off a few times when outside temp would hit 100+
That hapenned to my 10k miles 2010 C6 Z06 just today. Check engine light and stability control light both on and message about the latter. Engine was working...not right.
Well, when I bought the car 2 years ago with 5K miles, the same thing happened at the shop that imediatly located and simply put the wire back on.
So today, when I saw what was going on I stopped and saw one spark plug wire off. Put it back and it's done.
But now I'm in the Forum to know why!
I'll look for corrosion, replace the wires and use the dielectric grease.
2 questions:
-How I know if the coils failed?
-Is it necessary to upgrade the wires or best to use OEM? Katech is too expensive! But there is LG and MSD for what I read. What is the best?
Last edited by MarMPB; Sep 22, 2013 at 11:48 PM.
Reason: error
Could be trapped air... As the engine got hotter the air that was trapped between the plug and the spark plug boot seal expanded and just worked its way off...
It is a nice dry evening here in Almost Heaven WV, so I went out looking for a new daily driver. Drove 30 miles to the dealer to see what is on the lot. I have a 2010 coupe with 9,000 miles, 6 sp manual and is run fairly easy most of the time with an occasional romp. Had the cruise set at 65 mph all the way to the dealer who was closed for the day and when I got there, I left it idling while I checked out the inventory. I was out maybe 10 minutes and when I got back in, the check engine light was on, same with the stabilty control message and it was running rough. Nursed it back home running rough, it wouldn't even pull 6th gear at 60 mph. Checked the codes with my Diablo Predator and it was a random misfire. I let it cool down a little and pulled off the FRCs and low and behold the spark plug wire on #1 cylinder had come completely off of the coil. Never experienced this one before. Put it back on and reset the codes and it fired right up with no CELs, idled and revved just fine in the garage. What could cause a plug wire to come off while it was sitting idling?, plugs or wires have never been touched. It is all stock except full Magnaflow catback and LS7 intake bridge and stock tune (no Predator). It had me baffled while I drove 30 miles home on 7 cylinders.
Happened to me this past weekend in my 09 coupe (12K miles).
#5 coil wire just disconnected after a quick (not panic) stop.
Foolishly checked scanner first and freaked a little before getting smarter and going old-school to check ALL of the connections.
All is well and car runs great now, but IMHO it's an odd thing to happen to any car, much less a 5 yr old with a low clock.
The act of removing the wires could break one. The terminals are fragile and sometimes get stuck.
Indeed. I was just checking mine ('12 GS with 500 miles), and the first 2 broke, even though I was gentle. They break just by looking at them the wrong way. Absolute POS... but not surprised by GM crap quality anymore.
Originally Posted by MarMPB
Is it necessary to upgrade the wires or best to use OEM? But there is LG and MSD for what I read. What is the best?
I did. For $70 shipped from Summit Racing (MSD 8.5mm superconductors), no sense in risking getting stranded (or potentially causing any damage) due to crap wires. Plus the big advantage of those having only a 25-ohm resistance, rather than 800 . Not thrilled having to spend in stuff like that, but I felt wires and a catch-can were necessary expenses for the good of the engine . But to each his own, of course.
In my days of dyno testing engines (30+ years) we saw this happen. It is the air trapped inside the boot expanding and popping the wire off. The fix for this was to put an air bleed (small tunnel) the length of the boot to allow air to pass. Hot idle conditions are one of the worst for this. Do all spark plug wires have these air bleeds? I have no idea. The better ones should. Keep in mind, even if it has the air bleeds they can become plugged. Just saying...
Originally Posted by WV Vette
It is a nice dry evening here in Almost Heaven WV, so I went out looking for a new daily driver. Drove 30 miles to the dealer to see what is on the lot. I have a 2010 coupe with 9,000 miles, 6 sp manual and is run fairly easy most of the time with an occasional romp. Had the cruise set at 65 mph all the way to the dealer who was closed for the day and when I got there, I left it idling while I checked out the inventory. I was out maybe 10 minutes and when I got back in, the check engine light was on, same with the stabilty control message and it was running rough. Nursed it back home running rough, it wouldn't even pull 6th gear at 60 mph. Checked the codes with my Diablo Predator and it was a random misfire. I let it cool down a little and pulled off the FRCs and low and behold the spark plug wire on #1 cylinder had come completely off of the coil. Never experienced this one before. Put it back on and reset the codes and it fired right up with no CELs, idled and revved just fine in the garage. What could cause a plug wire to come off while it was sitting idling?, plugs or wires have never been touched. It is all stock except full Magnaflow catback and LS7 intake bridge and stock tune (no Predator). It had me baffled while I drove 30 miles home on 7 cylinders.
This happened to me last summer. Number 5 popped off but not enough to notice. Started nursing it home and finally pulled over, opened the hood and see #5 is off. Reconnected and all was well.
Trapped air in the boot that expands as it get hot.
The cure, use a light coat of dielectric grease on the inside of the boots before you install the wires. The grease allows for the air to escape , plus allows for the boots to be installed so you are sure that you have the connectors snapped in place as well.
I had one come off... thought I had broke the car... LOL I was on my way to a "Corvettes of Miami" club meeting and one of the guys knew exactly what it was... sure enough, popped the hood and one wire was not connected. What a relief!
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